When will the GP stop being so "steel"?

Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:52 PM
Every time I come across a wooden coaster these days, it seems like theres never a line, not that I'm complaining. It just seems that whenever I talk about a good wooden coaster to non enthusiasts, I always get "wooden coasters suck" or "its too small/old". When will the GP see that wooden coasters can be just as good or sometimes better than steel coasters? Until they can open there eyes to this, I dont see any CCI's or GCI's coming to large parks. Take CP for example,...until the 2 Streaks get some attention, I dont see them adding anything wooden for a long time.

It really sickens me when the only woodie I see with a line is 218 ft tall and has a loop. Is this what the world is coming too?

*says joey who would take a ride on a CCI over a launched steel hyper mega looper any day.

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Thursday, August 23, 2001 6:56 PM
Villian has always had a line out of the station unless it is raining.
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Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:02 PM
huh, thats wierd I rode it 15 times straight with an empty line back at the end of May.
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Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:17 PM
Okay, your talking about the General Public here. They ride what they like. Its not like enthusiast take the time to appreciate the splender in woodies. We and the GP ride what we like. Wooden roller coasters offer a different feel than Steels, thats it. On a steel you get more, period. You have different elements, different riding positions, anything you can do on a woodie, you can basically do on a steel, so there is no suprise that more people will ride Steels. Plus generally there are more Steel coasters in a park than woodies.
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Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:23 PM
I'm a enthusiast and i like Steel the best.  Man who cares ride what you want to ride, trust me there not going to stop building woodies out there.
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Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:24 PM
I have experienced this as well.  I was at SFNE...and we had a tight schedule, so we wouldn't be able to get on all the coasters.  We had a choice between Flashback (standard boomerang) and Riverside Cyclone.  My sister and her friend (very much non enthusiasts...they just like to ride) chose the flashback because it was steel.  I know the Cyclone would have been an amazing ride, b/c I haven't been on too many woodies in my life (all I basically have around me is Rolling Thunder).  We ended up waiting about 45 minutes to get on Flashback, which I have been on exact clones of that before.  No one likes woodies, they don't know what they are missing.
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Thursday, August 23, 2001 7:30 PM
Thats exactly what I'm trying to say Chewman.
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Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:00 PM
Good point joey isch. Why do GPers think that ALL woodies are "old and rickety?"  Even many people who ride Ghostrider think that "the thing must be at least 25 years old."  I always correct them and let them know just how sturdy it is. (earthquake retrofit)  Come on, GR is the newest (and by far the best, IMO) coaster in the park, sheesh!
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Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:09 PM
Considering how much I love wood coasters, the realization that the GP will like a steel coaster more than a woodie is sort of disheartening.  I would love nothing more than for Cedar Point to get a CCI (see my sig) and the announcement of such would excite me more than MF's original announcement did.  But, I also know that this will probably not happen because the GP flocks to the gimmicks that steel coasters make possible and CP's going to put in what the GP will flock to (can we blame them?).
Oh well, it looks like I'm going to have to make the drive to SFWoA and put up with the often crappy conditions there just to satisfy my wooden coaster craving! 
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*** This post was edited by MooreOn on 8/24/2001. ***

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Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:28 PM
I think the "GP" still has plenty of interest in wooden coasters. The coasters that some of you described are decades old, of course the lines are going to be short.

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Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:39 PM
Umm and that a bad thing for us woodie lovers. The villian has a good crew though too, and most the line is becuase certain morons dont know its alright to move left or right

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Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:04 PM
Personally, I love woodies, they offer and incredibly rough yet fun ride that can't be felt on a steel coaster, since they are smoother(some just feel rough becuase of the OTSR's that bash you aronnd). I wish there were more woodies around here, all we have basically is Ghostrider, Colossus, and Psyclone. I hope those little rumors about a woodie at SFMM will prove true. Something about 130 feet, twister, and insane airtime.

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Friday, August 24, 2001 6:01 AM
I think the popularity of wooden coasters is alive and well. Just look at how many have bn built in the last few years by CCI alone. And look at coasters such as Shivering Timbers, That ride is the reason Michigan's Adventure is on the map and has caught Cedar Fair's eye. Heck the majority of coasters in that park are wood. If people didn't like them parks wouldn't build them. I'm glad my homepark BGT has Gwazi which is underrated in my opinion(despite the slow loading process). I think wood will be popular for many years to come because it does have a different sensation than steel.
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Friday, August 24, 2001 6:26 AM
The next new wooden rollercoaster for Cedar Point, intorducing "Silver Streak", lightning quick!
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Friday, August 24, 2001 7:05 AM
 I agree that the GP is still interested in wood coasters.  But as was mentioned in another thread, no major park chain has built a wooden coaster as the single new attraction for a season in many years.  SOB has had lines this year.  When Mean Streak opened, it also had very long lines.  If some parks builds a supper big Intamin woody, I bet you will see long lines.
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Friday, August 24, 2001 7:59 AM
I think the GP definitly likes both(IMO), I say this because when Mean Streak's opening day came, I said I wasn't going to ride it the first day because the lines would be to long! Well guess what? I went three weeks later and line was 2hours, and yes I waited!
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Friday, August 24, 2001 8:04 AM
Wild Adventures built Cheetah and Indiana Beach built Cornball Express!
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Friday, August 24, 2001 8:05 AM
Oh, major park chain....
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Friday, August 24, 2001 8:30 AM
Great point!  I think most of the GP DOES feel that wooden rides are "old" or "rickety".  It's a shame in that more aren't being built, but I LOVE the short queues - look at my sign-in.  I think maybe that will change a little now with Intamin's use of laminated lumber - it should smooth out the track greatly.  (Anyone out there ridden Colossos yet?)  But I am a little concerned, I like my woodies a little on the rough side.  Of course I also like back seat rides, and I've read that's mostly for the S&M crowd, so maybe it IS just me...

Oh, and cyrbuzz, I was at BGT last Sunday, there weren't even dueling Gwazi because of the abysmally slow loading...maybe having ride-ops check BOTH restraints so thoroughly isn't ALL that necessary.  I miss the dueling, but you've got to have two GOOD crews working if you're going to duel - and what's the point of BUILDING a dueling coaster if you're going to send the trains independently...we need a little help at BGT!

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*** This post was edited by gatorwoodie on 8/24/2001. ***

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Friday, August 24, 2001 8:37 AM


RPMGuitar said:
 But as was mentioned in another thread, no major park chain has built a wooden coaster as the single new attraction for a season in many years. 


Umm, how about the Boss. 


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