Wheelchairs and marathoning a ride

Just a curious question. Your intentions are to wait for your party to go through the line each time to ride thus you are going to wait for them.

What if you went alone to the park and wanted to ride something consecutive times. Since you wouldnt be waiting for your friends , how would that work?

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good question. if i WERE to be alone, i guess it would work the same way.

of course, making friends with the ride-ops, or letting them know of my intentions to only ride that one attraction all day would probably help.

besides, if i was only one person, i wouldn't be depriving 21% of the train a chance to ride...;)

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Does it matter? That isn't what she plans to do.

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thank you for being the only one who knows what i plan to do, Jeff.

please close this...it wasnt my intention to start anything. i just wanted to get some info well before my trip so i could plan accordingly.

sorry if it backfired.

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If you plan on marathoning it Magnum Dan's way, then that should be fine. Just rememner, Dan did that on a day where Maggie was a walk-on. MF (in all likelyhood) won't be a walk-on. Whether or not the ride ops would allow you to sit on the platform and wait for your friends to wait through the line all day is another story. I am not sure of CP's policy on that. You may need to ask at guest services for permission to do that while getting your special assistance pass.

Hope it works out for you.

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servo3000 said:

my only question was about how many times the park would allow me to do it, not how many times Mark and SFLake would allow me to do it.



Hey... wait a sec here. I could care less how many times you would ride it, as long as your group went around and waited in line like everyone else.

As far as ride #1... I think I alluded to that in my post... Ride it once... and by that I meant use the Exit Ramp go right on in. One person (or even a group of people) wouldn't be that bad once. HOWEVER... the initial post that was made sounded like you wanted you and your group to marathon by use of this same system... in other words... get off and get right back on.

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No, I realize that wasnt what she planned to do. I was just wondering how the parks deal with something like that.

If you rode once and asked to ride again, would the ride-op say something like "You have to wait 30 minutes for a second ride". Like I said, I was just curious.

Hope it works out well for you servo.

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no no....sorry, i misunderstood your misunderstanding...

sorry dude...sounded like you were agianst the whole system or something...damn brain fog always kicks in at the wrong time...;)

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That was my understanding, as well, SLFAKE.
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Hey, I will try to help.

For those who don't know how CP's boarding policy works, the party goes to entrance and gets a boarding time for however long the line is. So if the line was 30 minutes they and up to 4 people would get on 30 minutes later. They can only have one boarding time at a time. Once they ride they can get a time for another ride. The book has 3 spots for each ride. I'm sure you could just cross a different ride out or request another book and get that approved once you run out of spots for the ride.

Special Access on Millennium Force involves merging with the regular line at the ramp (like freeway) when the boarding time comes. They don't want people going up the exit becuase it would block it.

On Millennium Force last year on some days the line was so short it did not extend past the ramp so they did not hand out special access for the ride. You would not need a boarding pass or anything, just go up on the ramp and ride, exit, and get back in line :). I hope you get it on a day like that (cold Sundays were like that).

On last thing I forgot. You would leave the wheelchair in the unload station and load right in there if you can't walk. You can request the front seat as well when you get your boarding time! :) They would just add 30 minutes to your time which is about the time everyone else waits.

*** This post was edited by Joe E. on 7/29/2002. ***

Ok... having been to SFNE and SFGAdv last week with my parents (mom use a wheelchair whenever we go to places where she has to stand up for long time). Here is how its worked at both parks: you go to the exit of the ride (or use the handicapped access), ask for a ride access pass, where the operator note the wait time, the hour it is now and then, finally, the hour you come back (if its 2:30 pm and the river rapids ride has a 45 minutes wait, you come back at 3:15 pm). At SFGAdv, this was for party of 4 or less, more people means they have to go through the whole line, while you wait that they reach the station. Hope this helps you.

Having experience CP's handicap policy first hand, I doubt that she will have any problems trying to do what she wants. She will not have to wait for the other members in her group unless the party size is larger than four. Simply get your pass at the visitors center, in the large arcade building, and then go to MF. If the sign at the front of the line says 1.5 hours then they will tell you to come back in 1.5 hours. Go enjoy yourself for 1.5 hours and come back. You cannot be waiting for more than one ride at a time, however, only the more popular rides are in your book. For most of the smaller rides, you just go to the exit and they'll let you on shortly.

PS to some of the respondents on this thread: Way to show some class there folks!

PPS, O, I just remembered, they don't use this policy for MF. THe queue is considered handicap accessible. You have to wait in line, in your chair of course, like everyone else. This can be a bother. We had to do this a PKI for SOB.

*** This post was edited by PointMan on 7/29/2002. ***

I think a lot of the problem with this thread has to do with the wording of the original post. I certainly took it to indicate attempting to gain a level of access to MF etc. greatly exceeding what someone who is not handicapped could get.

I am the father of a handicapped child, and naturally I strongly support the rights of and accomadations for the handicapped. However, I oppose abuse of those rights and accomadations as it is the kind of thing that can provoke a backlash against the handicapped and injure them in the long run.

Some of the responses in this thread kinda surprise me, but then again they really don't. RIGHT ON with that PC-approved quote, Mark. I got the same impression I think a lot of others did from the original, and for the first few posts I was trying to figure out why Mark was getting attacked (flamed?) so much for seemingly trying extra hard to answer in a polite but straightforward way. Had I seen the post in time I'm sure I would have been on the receiving end of some of that too.

CoasterBuzz is one of those things I will just never understand...

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Chitown one day at kennywood a boy in a wheel chair wanted to ride jackrabbit and he was all alone. I don't know what Kw policy is but the ride ops let him ride four straight times and then made him move on. I'm assuming he was aloud to come back to the ride later in the day.

To add to everything here:

I may be wrong but I think people who are disabled and their party of 4 or less may ride a particular coaster twice in a row if it is difficult for them to board and un board the ride. This is a courtesy to persons who are dissabled and I see NOTHING wrong with it.

I don't see this as an inconvenience to us non-disabled people. I feel that if it is hard for one to get themselves onto the ride vehicle, then they should be allowed 2 rides in a row. I find that more than fair. I can stand and wait for them to complete their 2 rides with no complaints. I know the excitement builds while you are in line, but Shame on you if you you are in such a rush that you can't be a little compassionate to someone who finds it difficult to even get on and off a ride.

A long, lost friend of mine has CP and I can honestly say that he was my hero. He had such a determination to do whatever anyone else could do. He forced me to slow down and when I did I enjoyed life so much more. When I first met him I kind of felt sorry for him but after getting to know him, I envied him. I wonder where he is now?

NOTE: I have been a ride opp at CP and IOA and I might be confuseing the two parks policies on this subject.

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I just wouldn't try doing that in Cali, you'll get yelled at. I've seen at PGA where a group of kids in wheel chairs(about a dozen) came up through the exit of Demon. Their chaperon talked to the operator who let hem go on. Now, everybody in the station started getting mad about the fact that they were being stalled off and there was booing throughout the station. One guy even called the operator a jerk and threw a milk dud at him(don't worry,that guy got kicked out.) What was said was seeing this 10 year girl in glasses starting to cry because everyone was booing at her.

This kind of behavior is what really makes me furious about the general public. Sure it was evening, but PGA promises that anyone in the line by a certain time will get there final ride. Come on, is it that hard for people to have a little respect for the misfortuned? Show a little compassion. Some of you guys sound like you'll act just like the rude guests in Demon's station house. And I don't want to here anything on the news about people wasting good milk duds at Cedar Point as ammunition to ride operators .

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You are right Dexter. The people in park operations will determine when double rides will be given. It isn't for every person that walks through with shin splints or anything, but when it is obvious that it is going to be a chore for the people in the group to get the person in/out of the vehicle (possibly causing major slowdowns, setups, etc), they'll give double rides. In all honesty, I believe the idea behind it is that they'll get two rides and be less likely to come back to that ride later and slow things down again. Joe E explained the whole thing really well so there is no reason for everyone to get in an uproar. CP's policy ensures fairness to everyone. People in wheelchair have to wait the same amount of time as anyone else - they just don't wait in the queue.

99% of the time, other guests were very understanding when we asked them to wait one train so we could load the special access guests. There were a few people who just didn't get it, but overall, people are real good about it. I'd imagine it has something to do with the fact that at CP, waiting one train more means waiting all of about 40-90 seconds extra, depending on the interval of the coaster. On those rides at some parks with 5 minute intervals, I might get a bit PO'ed, but at CP, it usually isn't an issue.

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*** This post was edited by MDOmnis on 7/29/2002. ***

What a bunch of inconsiderate bums the GP at Demon was at PGA. I've waited a train for handicapped riders on several occasions. No big deal.
Having first-hand experience with using an exit pass wristband at SFWoA, I can say that their system was about as fair as possible under the circumstances. Go up the exit ramp (or last year's incarnation of the FastPass lane), take a ride, get off. No immediate rerides, but you were free to come back later. Cedar Point's system of putting down a time to come back sounds even more fair -- you still "wait out the line" and don't just jump ahead of everyone.

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