Wheelchairs and marathoning a ride

Monday, July 29, 2002 11:42 AM

i am heading back to CP in October and i will probably need a wheelchair to get around the park. no biggie, i knew it was coming.

my question is, if my group wanted to marathon on MF or Maggie or something, would it even be possible? or is there a limit to how many laps they let you do while using the handicapped access program??

if anyone knows anything, please let me know so i can beging reviewing options soon.

thanks!!

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Monday, July 29, 2002 11:46 AM
No offense, but I hope not. I understand the need to skip the line if you're in a wheelchair, but it seems unfair to keep taking multiple seats away from guests who have waited on line for over an hour.

Once again, I hope that I'm not coming across as insensitive to wheelchair-bound guests-that's certainly not my intention.
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Monday, July 29, 2002 11:48 AM

so because i am disabled i forfeit the right to marathon a ride if i so choose?? maybe it IS unfair to others, but how is it fair to me to make me walk (when i clearly CAN'T) if i want to ride more than once? especially if lines are short?

offense taken.

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*** This post was edited by servo3000 on 7/29/2002. ***

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Monday, July 29, 2002 11:52 AM
You have no more right to marathon than any other guest, IMO. If there's no lines, ride all you want. If there's an hour long line, then no, you don't have the right to continuously skip the line.
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Monday, July 29, 2002 11:57 AM

ok tell you what...i'll trade you my progressing Multiple Sclerosis for the chance to enjoy the park like a "normal" person. see how YOU like it.

if the PARK tells me no, then fine. but if you, a lucky, non-disabled person tells me no, then the heck with you. watch me marathon and you know what?? i'll WALK to do it, if it means taking a seat away from someone as ignorant as you.

i ASKED for INFORMATION on whether or not i COULD marathon, not ignorant OPINIONS on whether i SHOULD. there IS a difference.

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Monday, July 29, 2002 11:57 AM

Not worried about being PC (When was I EVER known to be PC?) but I agree with Mark W. Certainly not fair to let a group of people stay on while others have waited for over an hour.

If your group insists on marathon riding, fine... more power to you.

However, what should be done is this...

Get in one ride.

You want another ride? Fine, let your group go back and stand in line like everyone else. When they arrive back at the station, they and you (who would be waiting for them after using the Handicapped Access) can then ride.

You want another ride? Fine... let them go back and wait in line like everyone else. When they arrive, they and you (who would be waiting for them after using the Handicapped Access) can then ride

You want another ride? Fine... let them wait in line... etc etc etc.

See a pattern here?

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*** This post was edited by SLFAKE on 7/29/2002. ***

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:01 PM
I don't really have the inside scoop or anything, when I was at CP, it looked like people in wheelchairs could skip to the front of each line once. They had a card that said handicapped access and each ride was listed once and when they went on the ride, the op checked it off. Of course, someone who has or does work at CP would know a lot better than I.
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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:06 PM
Yes, I obviously have no clue about MS, despite the fact my mother suffers from it. I have no idea what it's like to be in a wheelchair for prolonged times, except for the time I got hit by a lumber truck when I was riding my bike and broke my 3rd and 4th cervical vertibrae and my femur, which made me miss a year of high school while I learned how to walk. Puhleeze.

I am sorry that you have the misfortune to be stricken with MS. Many of us, however, face our own disabilities and problems. Are you saying that having MS ENTITLES you to something? I sure hope not.

I have no problem with you going up the ramp once. When you and your GROUP of friends cut in front of thousands of people MULTIPLE TIMES just because you want to, I have an issue.
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*** This post was edited by Mark W. Baruth on 7/29/2002. ***

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:06 PM

i'm not doing the wheelchair thing because i want to skip the line. i am doing it because i cannot stand in line for an hour or more.

the only reason parks HAVE handicapped entrances is becuase wheelchairs and scooters will not fit through the queue lines.

the response from SFLake was slightly better, but i had already thought of that solution. problem is, will the park LET me sit at the handicapped entrance for an hour or more ALL DAY whilst waiting for my group to come around each time?

i guess there's no solution thats gonna make everyone happy.

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:09 PM

and NOT having MS entitles YOU to something?? have fun being "normal" and watching me and my group of FOUR people (not 20 or 30) cut in front of you repeatedly.

maybe you should ask your mom what its like sometime and REALLY listen to her this time.

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:13 PM

Way to be a bunch of insensitive jerks guys. World class. She never suggested screwing your able-bodied selves out of any rides. She never suggested she was entitled to anything either.

Servo: I believe the procedure at CP is such that you can meet your group when they get through the queue. The MF queue is in fact designed to accomodate chairs, but I don't know if they've actually allowed people to use them. The only difference there is that you'd load on the exit platform.

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:16 PM

thanks Jeff...i really appreciate the defense.

so if i wanted to take the chair through the queue i could do so?? i seem to remember the WT handicapped access being through the regualr queue.

i don't want to be separated from my group for too long, ya know??

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:19 PM
Quick math for dummies-

You and your friends want to marathon on Wicked Twister. You and your four friends take up six seats (since one of you will be a single rider). Forgive me for not remembering exactly how many rows there are on WT-I think there are fourteen. 28 seats available, of which your group is using 6, or reducing the capacity by 21%. If people are waiting for these seats, and their wait would normally be 1 hour, you've just added anywhere from 15-25 minutes to their wait by taking multiple rerides. If I misread your post and your total group size is 4, then you're still using 14% of the seats, and adding anywhere from 10-20 minutes to the wait.

You're asking that I be considerate towards you, I'd ask that you be considerate towards others.
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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:21 PM

Like I said, I know that the intention was to allow it for MF, thus, the long ramp, but I don't know if in practice they do that or have you go up the exit. I suggest to call the park and ask. I'm assuming with WT they'd want you to use the exit because there's room to secure your chair off the platform (where loose objects are obviously not desireable).

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:22 PM

Mark: Are you even listening? She didn't say she wanted to sit on the damn ride... she was asking about the ability to enter via the exit more than once.

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:24 PM

um, i said FOUR people total. that's me and three friends.

so your math is off a bit.

sorry if you're so bitter towards those of us less fortunate than you. at least i have a full life and i intend to enjoy it while i still can. i am 34 years old and practically cannot walk.

so guess what? attitudes like yours make me all the more determined to enjoy my life and what time i have left no matter what anyone thinks...

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:35 PM
servo3000, I think a lot of the heat people are giving you stems from the fact that you used the word "marathoning" in your topic title. The term "marathoning" assumes that someone is re-riding without getting off the ride. You already mentioned that this is NOT what you intend to do, rather let your group wait in line and join them when they make it to the station.

At Knotts (another Cedar Fair Park) they allow you and up to 3 people to the front of the line of any given ride, then ask you to wait at least one hour before returning to re-ride THAT attraction. You & your group are free to ride anything else in that hour.

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:36 PM
Jeff: Perhaps my understanding of the word "marathon" is incorrect-my understanding is that she and her group wanted to ride over and over again without waiting. If that understanding was incorrect, then I apologize. I think that SLFAKE's proposal is perfect.

servo: I am perplexed as to where you are reading that I am "bitter" towards those less fortunate than I. I have every sympathy towards those with disabilities-I have been a caretaker of my mother's since I was big enough to do chores around the house. Guess what-I've even taken her to themeparks and used exit passes. As I previously mentioned, I have no problem with you going up the ramp, and if there is no wait, reride as many times as you like.

I realize that any attitude exhibited on this board that is less than 100% PC-approved is met with unfaltering hatred, but I think that those that are quick to jump down the throats of others often miss what's really been said.
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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:37 PM
Dont the exits on some of those rides still have stairs? I am thinking about the exit for Gemini, Iron Dragon, Maggie? That can make it hard to wait by the platform for your friends to come through the line. My wife was in a wheelchair last week because she sprained her ankle the day before we left for the Po!nt and we found that there was no real safe places to leave the chair while going on rides where the chair could be observed or watched by an employee. We ended up switching a lot, having her ride and I watch the chair, and then I would ride and she would be back in the chair.

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Monday, July 29, 2002 12:38 PM

when i said "marathoning". i meant not riding anything else that day and getting in as many laps as possible, ala Magnum Dan and his 72 lap day on Maggie. i beleive he went around to the entrance every time and i was planning on doing that.

my only question was about how many times the park would allow me to do it, not how many times Mark and SFLake would allow me to do it.

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