What do you think will happen to all of Magic Mountain's coasters?

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Austin the Ninja said:

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BATWING FAN SFA said:
^^Yeah but havn't you heard? discovery channel doesn't produce coaster shows anymore.I guess the audience got sick & tired of seeing SFMM on each & every one of them,that & they've become obsessed with that american chopper crap lately.

Many people here seem to forget that not only is SFMM in danger of closing but 5 other parks in the chain are as well.I see absolutely nobody whining about the prospects of losing SFDL,SFEG or any of the other parks they mentioned which may be shut down but boy ohh boy when SFMM is up for grabs that's all anyone here is concerned with.

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I wasn't complaining because Magic Mountain was closing, which it isn't..yet... the topic was about the unusual terrain of the coasters and IF they could survive IF the park closes. SFDL, SFEG, and the other parks are all on flat land and IF they closed, the coasters could very easily be relocated to flat land at other parks. Magic Mountain, however is a different story.

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Well I just don't see any of their coasters being relocated if the park should happen to go the way of SFAW.

Like I posted in another thread we've already got three of SFAW's coasters just sitting in storage & the odds of any of them being rebuilt at the parks they were shipped to doesn't look very promising at this point so I'd say chances are pretty high that SFMM's coasters<the ones that could be relocated> will just be scrapped as many of the rides there simply don't fit in with Shapiro's whole family ride image to begin with.

Shapiro & CO. want to spend as little cash as possible & it's a fact that ride relocatioons from one park to another cost money so this is why I doubt that we'll be seeing any rides being relocated should SFMM or any of the other parks be closed.

This whole topic is depressing to me. I've never been to Magic Mountain, and since I've been trying to decide if I am going to visit SFMM or Great Adventure this year, I think I may have found a reason to go to California instead.

I know the park gets a lot of heat for being poorly run, but some of the coasters are unique and stunning (at least in photographs). It would be a shame if Six Flags simply dumped it. I can see some value in the "family" marketing angle, but I think that a lot of the company's problems had more to do with poor operations and not rowdy teenagers specifically.

Also, I'm kind of annoyed with the Six Flags price increases this year. I purchased a season pass for SFGam, but when parking is $15 a day... I doubt I'll be inclined to visit by myself on a whim. The price increases also make me more likely to leave the park to get food or pack a picnic lunch. Furthermore, the $56 price for a one-day ticket makes it a bit tougher to convince friends to join me who don't already own a season pass - especially if they don't see the value in the water park.

Anyway, if Magic Mountain is sold, I hope someone purchases it that can make it work - perhaps Cedar Fair or Busch. I imagine that with the proper management it could be just as good as Cedar Point - appealing to both families and extreme thrill seekers alike. Closing it and demolishing many of the rides just seems like such a waste.

Oh... and the "Odyssey Party" that CoasterHound mentioned sounds very cool. Sure, SFGam has their "Pride Day", but it's not something that is officially organized by the park or even part of their calendar. I'd love for an event like that to happen in the Chicago area.

I wonder, of the people voicing their opinions now when the decision has probably already been made, how many went to guest relations with the same opinions before the decision was made. See my sig.

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Mamoosh said:Here is what WILL be considered:
1] Does it make money?
2] Does it contribute to the chain's bottom line?
3] Does it fit into the family rebranding plans?
4] If it does not fit how costly will it be to transform SFMM from a thrill park into a family-friendly park?
5] How costly will it be to market the new SFMM to a marketplace filled with people who have a bad opinion of the park?
6] Is it better in the long run to save the money needed to renovate and market and sell the park either to another party who will operate it or for the valuable land it sits on?

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1. No.
2. See 1.
3. No.
4. VERY expensive!
5. Still quite expensive.
6. TBD...not looking good though.

Hopefully we'll get enough notice before the park closes to get one last visit. Honestly, this is the park in the chain that just never lived up to its potential, and that really COULD have been turned around.
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DJGreg,

Odyssey was off the chain. I was a bit disappointed that Riddler's Revenge and Flashback were inoperative that day, over all it was an awesome experience. This is part of the reason I will have a conniption if Magic Mountain closes down permanently. I mean did anyone stop visiting Great Adventure when Kingda Ka was shut down for 1/3 of its 2005 season? Top Thrill Dragster only operated 3 months of is inaugural season, but I didnt see Cedar Fair heading towards the park with foreclosure papers and torches. But I digress. I always knew there was a large contingency of gays and lesbians who enjoy riding coasters and that proved it to me. Heck, Ive heard that about 1/3 of ACE is gay. Maybe I should join up again to find me a date =). Another good party to visit is a similar event at Kings Island in Cincinnati. It takes place the same weekend as Odyssey so choose your event. Either way, there were some GORGEOUS looking beefy guys there =) Just depends if you wanna ride with cornfed midwest beef or CA cuisine style beef. :)

1/3rd may be a bit more high of an estimate, but its up there. Coaster enthusiasts are predominantly male, and an amazing amount are, like myself, and many many other folks here, gay.

I believe someone did a poll over at that other forum we're not allowed to mention here and something like 20% of responders self identified as gay. Of course it was a volutnary response poll on the internet so in no way was it scientific, but yeah. The point remains. If you're headed to your average enthusiast event, you're likely to be surrounded by homos.

Anyway, back on topic... *** Edited 6/25/2006 7:03:18 PM UTC by matt.***

Here's a few slivers of hope:

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But don't expect housing to be built on the park anytime soon, Kyser said. Recent development projects have run into roadblocks concerning traffic and water issues, and community opposition, he said.

"In most people's viewpoint, any new development in Santa Clarita is overdevelopment," he said. "Because they've seen a lot of rapid growth and they don't like the result."

http://www.dailynews.com/santaclarita/ci_3973919

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And:

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NEW YORK (AP) -- In a June 22 story about Six Flags Inc. mulling options for several of its theme parks, The Associated Press reported erroneously that the company may explore closure of the parks.

Instead, if Six Flags cannot sell the parks, the company will consider selling the land for real estate development purposes and then dismantling parts of the parks and redeploying them for use at other Six Flags properties.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060623/six_flags_parks.html?.v=1

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*** Edited 6/28/2006 2:36:53 AM UTC by jomo***

Many of the coasters that SFMM has other parks in the chain do as well,save for the 4D of course.Case in point would be B:TR...only SFFT lacks any inverted coaster & we all saw what happened with SFAW's SLC now didn't we?

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Swoosh said:
^Exactly. Unlike Houston post-SFAW, there are near by parks that people can still go to. Houstonians have to go several hours of drive time to go to a park now.

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Cry me a river. In the Baltimore area, all we had for years for Wild World (and before that there was nothing) and its one coaster Wild One, which wasn't even open one year. So we got up early, got in the car with Mom and Dad and went to Hersheypark, King's Dominion, Busch Gardens, or Great Adventure. Having been to Texas, I really don't think the drives are all that bad to either park.

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Intamin Fan said:
Cry me a river. In the Baltimore area, all we had for years for Wild World (and before that there was nothing) and its one coaster Wild One, which wasn't even open one year. So we got up early, got in the car with Mom and Dad and went to Hersheypark, King's Dominion, Busch Gardens, or Great Adventure. Having been to Texas, I really don't think the drives are all that bad to either park.

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Hersheypark is about 60 miles from Baltimore. An easy day trip. Fiesta Texas is about 200 miles from Houston, quite a bit more daunting. On RCDB I see something like 30 parks within 150 miles of Baltimore while Houston currently lacks a single rollercoaster in that range*.

If Magic Mountain vanishes, the region will hardly shatter - not with Disney, Knotts, and Legoland not to mention smaller parks like Scandia that are around.

* that's not a kiddie parking lot carnival ride like a Dragon Wagon.

A city as big as Houston could use a major theme park, but I don't know if anyone would want to step up to the plate and start one these days.

Maybe they could buy some of SFMM's coasters and get a discount :)

Sure, Hersheypark is only about 60 miles from Baltimore, but that's from the northern part of the city. I live south of there, and it's about 110 miles from where I live--still not a bad day trip, though.

Agreed, comparing riding coasters in Houston to riding coasters in the Baltimore area, even without SFA, is completely laughable.

I'm sure those folks would happily trade the 200 miles to SFFT with the easy day trips to Hershey, and PKD, and BGE, and SFGADv. How in the world could you say "Cry me a river" to that?

^Wel if SFA ever goes then there's always PKD,HP,BGE & SFGRADV are all way too far of a trip from my neck of the woods to vist & as is PKD would only be an annual trip because of the distance.

If you live in an area where SFA is your closest park you're still living in one of the most coaster-rich parts of the world. Just sayin'. *** Edited 6/29/2006 8:59:10 PM UTC by matt.***