What do you think will happen to all of Magic Mountain's coasters?
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Austin the Ninja said:
What do you guys all think will happen to Magic Mountain's coasters if the park is done for and the mountain is sold. They'd probably be auctioned off? I could easily see Flashback getting the wrecking ball, along with maybe Psyclone as it is very unsafe. Do you think the Flags would put them at their other parks? I know this may be very far into the future. One thing I'm especially curious about is what will happen to Ninja as it is one of my favorites. Its layout might not fit anywhere else as it goes around the summit and requires the end lift. Thoughts on Ninja or the rest?
Funny you should ask! I posted this in the other thread -
For all of you jumping at the idea of relocating Magic Mountain's coasters elsewhere, keep yourself in check. A good handful of their coasters are custom designed into rolling terrain and would not be candidates for relocating. I know each and every one of these rides and how they fit into their part of the park and the following coasters would either need SERIOUS/MAJOR modifications to supports and track, and some not able to be relocated at ALL.
For those that are not EXTREMELY familiar with the park, FYI, the only coasters at this park that sit on relatively flat or completely flat land are The Riddler's Revenge, Flashback, Scream!, Colossus, Psyclone, Batman The Ride, Deja Vu, Goliath Jr., and Canyon Blaster. Everything else listed below was built to fit the rolling and sloping hills of the park and have very big elevation changes. Keep in mind, the damn park wasn't named Magic MOUNTAIN for no reason.
- Gold Rusher (high dependancy on current terrain, VERY, VERY LOW possibility of relocation)
- Revolution (high dependancy on current terrain; VERY, VERY LOW possibility of relocation)
- Tatsu (high dependancy on current terrain, VERY, VERY LOW possibility for relocation)
- Superman The Escape (dependancy on current terrain; VERY VERY LOW possibility of relocation)
- X (dependancy on current terrain; LOW possibility of relocation)
- Ninja (high dependancy on current terrain; VERY, VERY LOW possibility of relocation)
- Viper (dependancy on current terrain; LOW possibility of relocation)
- Goliath (dependancy on current terrain; LOW possibility of relocation)
kRaXLeRidAh said:
Austin the Ninja said:
What do you guys all think will happen to Magic Mountain's coasters if the park is done for and the mountain is sold. They'd probably be auctioned off? I could easily see Flashback getting the wrecking ball, along with maybe Psyclone as it is very unsafe. Do you think the Flags would put them at their other parks? I know this may be very far into the future. One thing I'm especially curious about is what will happen to Ninja as it is one of my favorites. Its layout might not fit anywhere else as it goes around the summit and requires the end lift. Thoughts on Ninja or the rest?Funny you should ask! I posted this in the other thread -
For all of you jumping at the idea of relocating Magic Mountain's coasters elsewhere, keep yourself in check. A good handful of their coasters are custom designed into rolling terrain and would not be candidates for relocating. I know each and every one of these rides and how they fit into their part of the park and the following coasters would either need SERIOUS/MAJOR modifications to supports and track, and some not able to be relocated at ALL.
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Nice try though.
And the elevator to get to Superman's station.
Vincent Greene said:Hi. I'm a concrete footer extension. I make things easy.
Nice try though.
Hi. I'm Vincent Greene and I'm really not too familiar with these rides and how extreme the elevation changes the rides face in relation to the terrain below them, but I'm going to be bold, try and smart alec-it and offer my perfect solution, which in reality, would not be feasible for most of those coasters mentioned.
Nice try, as well, Vincent. :)
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Going back to the relocation, I realize it would require some groundwork in X's case and some steel fabrication work in Superman's case, but how are these two coasters not easily relocatable? From what I remember, Superman is just a flat shot out to that tower, just the tower happens to sit some 100' off of "level" with the station. You could move the entire ride, cut the metal from the bottom of the tower and you'd probably be fine. Remember, you're shortening it, not lengthening, so your only structural problems might be stability, but a few angled pieces can solve that problem for a lot less money than junking a ride that would be a star at another park.
Relocating X wouldn't be too hard either, the thing sits mostly level. Again, in some cases, it'd be nothing more than just cutting DOWN some supports in places. The only portion of the ride that seems to "hug terrain" is the first drop, and it's not like parks haven't dug pits just to accomodate a first drop before (heck, didn't MM do that when they installed X in the first place?). If you take a look at this pic, you can see the majority of hte ride (other than the first drop) sits on flat land:
http://www.rcdb.com/ig750.htm?picture=6
Viper is also an easy relocation candidate. Check out this photo:
http://www.rcdb.com/ig25.htm?picture=10
The thing might be built into the side of the mountain, but the construction site is a flat piece of land. That's another relocator.
And even Goliath is in the same position as X. Check out these two photos, you can see the entire thing was built on completely flat land, and a pit dug out for hte first drop - something easily accomplished at a new location.
http://www.rcdb.com/ig615.htm?picture=10
http://www.rcdb.com/ig615.htm?picture=9
So add in these four with Batman, Canyon Blaster, Colossus, Deja Vu, Flashback, Goliath Jr., Psyclone (although it should be burned, not relocated), Riddler, and Scream and you're relocating 13 of their 17 coasters. Other than Tatsu, you're not losing any rides that aren't rather outdated anyway, and they'd be hard to pass off as "new" rides at other locations. We all know SFMM is famous for not having flats, so how again is this park not ripe for the selling? Just my very drawn out 2 cents
Most of their coasters are on relatively flat land. The only ones that would be a problem to relocate would be Tatsu, Ninja, Gold Rusher, and Revolution.
I am also frustrated about how Six Flags has screwed up many of the parks they have purchased. Like many parks, Magic Mountain was not always part of Six Flags. Before Six Flags set out to make the Mountain the park with the most coasters in the world, it was a pretty family friendly place. To say it should be closed because it now has too many coasters is just retarded.
If Six Flags new management is not willing to go beyond their window dressing, superficial adjustments to fix what the company broke to begin with (a family friendly atmosphere), then they need to pass the park on to a company willing to make the investments. I too see Busch’s Asia park as the best possible outcome for the Mountain. Busch does everything great in all that Six Flags has lacked.
So lets keep the frustrations focused on the folks responsible for making the park suck to begin with. As for the Mountain, I hope it finds owners who recognize the parks true potential. You have to be blind not to see it.
What other big thrill parks would you like to see demolished? *** Edited 6/23/2006 3:31:57 PM UTC by rc-madness***
rc-madness said:
Maybe we should be discussing the closure of SFNE, SFGAdv, or SFA, instead of discussing closing one of five thrill parks on the entire western half of the North American continent.
Fine with me. Is GAdv that much different that the current situation at MM?
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