As far as rough wood goes, I've found Wildcat at Lake Compounce, Blue Streak at Conneaut Lake Park, Mean Streak at Cedar Point, Ghost Rider at Knott's and (I'll get blasted for saying this) Phoneix at Knoebel's to be unusually rougher than I was expecting. Then again, I would ride them all again in a heartbeat.
On the steel side, Desperado at Buffalo Bill's and Mantis at Cedar Point would top my list.
Phoenix? Really? Wow. I guess I don't know what rough is then as I thought it was really smooth!
I also never really thought Mean Streak was rough, especially with the first hill brake that slows it down so much. Although I haven't been on it in about 4 years so maybe it is worse now. The key to that ride is to keep your back of the hard seat "cushion."
Can't compare anything to the Cyclone (never rode that one), but I would surely think that Myrtle Beach Pavillion's Hurricane and Geauga Lake's Villian have to be right up there with some of the roughest around.
There's bone jarring roughness... and then there is the "ripping your ribs from your sternum" roughness that these two give. *** Edited 8/16/2005 1:42:15 PM UTC by SLFAKE***
Rob Ascough said: I've never found Villain to be very rough (just a little aggressive in some spots)
That could have been it... it may not have been overly rough... but there was one spot that really did it to me. I don't recall what spot really, except it was the spot where it felt like all of the vertibrae in my back separated from each other by an inch or two and then when slamming back together.
As far as being a Gestlauer thing... perhaps. However, I rode the front seat of Cheetah at Wild Adventures about 5 times in a row with no problem or complailnts. Perhaps it is a Gestlauer thing combined with a seat thing. First seat on Villian was tollerable and fun... other seats... OUCH!!!!!!