Voyage Trimmed!?

Monday, August 6, 2007 12:59 PM
matt.'s avatar Can someone tell me exactly what the promise was?

Like can I get a quote?

Monday, August 6, 2007 1:41 PM
Acoustic Viscosity's avatar Yeah, I think it was more of a statement of intention and not a promise. I don't remember the phrase "(insert pronoun here) promise to never use the midcourse brake as a trim."

AV Matt
Long live the Big Bad Wolf

Monday, August 6, 2007 1:43 PM
They did not use the term promise but they did say they would never do it. That sounds like a promise to me. It was basically an us vs them statement.
Monday, August 6, 2007 1:46 PM
matt.'s avatar They said they would never use the midcourse break on the Voyage as a trim?

And who said it, Will?

I'm just wondering what was really said, not that it really matters.

Monday, August 6, 2007 1:47 PM
I think everyone should quit whining about it. They wouldn't have the trims on if it wasn't necessary. If you want to ride it without the trims there is a flyer posted for the Fall Affair at the top of the forum page. Plan on attending for a trimless Voyage ride. ;)
Monday, August 6, 2007 1:54 PM
Will the trims be off for the full day on Sept. 29th or just for the ERT??
Monday, August 6, 2007 2:01 PM
It was either a post here or on the Holiblog...I can't remember or search for it.
Monday, August 6, 2007 2:03 PM
matt.'s avatar

Coasterfantom2 said:
Plan on attending for a trimless Voyage ride. ;)

Oh god, it all makes sense.

Jeff slipped them some money under the table to put the break on and drive attendance for Fall Affair.

Tuesday, August 7, 2007 9:06 AM
And THEN raise controversy here just to increase his page hits and ad revenue!

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Tuesday, August 7, 2007 10:11 AM

I am thoroughly happy for my time in Santa Claus. I got to ride the Raven about 1200 times, Legend about 1000 and the Voyage 285 times in addition to countless rides on each and every ride at the park (other than Paul Revere which I had 1 and Revolution which I had 2 as spinners make me sick). Not only did I get more than my fair share of Holiday World and it's rides but I also got to watch the Voyage being built which was a dream of mine. In the end Santa Claus is not the place for me anymore. In life doors close and then new doors open for a reason. I needed to be there for a while but with some things that have happened in the town, with the park and most importantly personally that door has closed for me and I'm right where I need to be. Yes the Dragon Wagon that sits closer to me than The Raven did during the week of the county fair is a pale comparison to the coasters at Holiday World but I'm where I need to be.

Have Fun

Paul Drabek

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Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:11 AM
Soggy's avatar Put me in the camp of "I think this is a necessary evil." The Voyage is amazing, but perhaps too much of a good thing. I rode trimless in mid-July and all I could think was "I must be getting old or something, because I just can't take it." The out section is brilliant, but the turnaround and back sections are brutal. 3 laps and I was done. OK, crucify me.

And Jeff: yes, I do find this hobby fun again, now that it is just a hobby and no longer an obsession.

Pass da' sizzrup, bro!

Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:38 AM
The Voyage sure gave me a run for my money as well. I think 2 rides without getting off, plus the heat, man I got sick!

I was wondering what was wrong with me. I rode Screechin' Eagle 64 times in one day, well I was like 16, but still...

I'm glad they're doing what they need to. HW is obviously determined to run a park the best they can, and they are setting new standards. Standards which Six Flags will have to really have to strive for. And I sure hope they do!

The return run of the Voyage is very intense. I've never seen so many coaster enthusiasts 'sit one out', including me. I thought the ride could have used a nice - but fast - long run through a kinda uneventful tunnel (like Hades).

I also couldn't belive the ATTITUDE I got from another coaster geek (you know who you are) when I said I still prefer Legend over Voyage. Legend is more of a Variety coaster, and is very re-rideable.

Will Koch is obviously a coaster enthusiast. All this uproar over a little slowing down of Voyage, yet people are still ga ga over the Beast..... hmmmmm...

Tuesday, August 7, 2007 11:38 AM
I'm with Soggy. I can't wait to get a trimmed ride.
Tuesday, August 7, 2007 1:03 PM
I hate trimed rides too but..

A trimmed Voyage is better than no Voyage at all.

Sometimes maintenance and insurance costs force parks to trim a ride when they dont want to.

A good example is the Kennywood T-bolt.Run without the trims it beats the hell out of the trains,track and people.Years ago they use to run trimless rides for "special guests",now because of insurance its a big no-no.

*** Edited 8/7/2007 5:16:21 PM UTC by Ex_Westview and KW_worker***

Racing whippet 76-77
Tuesday, August 7, 2007 1:06 PM
Im betting the insurance had nothing to do with this decision, More insurance that it makes it to the end of the season before having to be retracked.


Tuesday, August 7, 2007 1:08 PM
The WAAAAAAmbulances in this thread are so loud it's deafening.
Tuesday, August 7, 2007 1:23 PM

Charles Nungester said:
Im betting the insurance had nothing to do with this decision, More insurance that it makes it to the end of the season before having to be retracked.


Probably not a insurance reason but wanted to list some of the reasons some parks trim rides.I agree with you Chuck,it was probably too hard on the track,trains and people.

Racing whippet 76-77
Tuesday, August 7, 2007 1:46 PM
Is there any chance this has more to do with rider complaints of roughness instead of or in addition to maintenance issues?
Tuesday, August 7, 2007 1:58 PM
^^^ That was something else I was going to bring up.It may be too much ride for the GP.Even some people here thought it may be a bit much,and most people here are hard core riders..

Until someone from HW tells us why,my guess is as goods as yours.I bet there is a good reason why they had to do it,and they probably hated doing it.

Racing whippet 76-77
Tuesday, August 7, 2007 3:25 PM
A Friend at work here in Nashville took his family to HW 3 weeks ago. They spent 2 days, had a great time. They rode Voyage once. He said it was too rough. The kids 'enjoyed it' but didn't need to ride again.
If this was done to reduce intensity of the return leg, it sounds like a good move to me.
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