Voyage Trimmed!?

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cdrpointcrazy44 said:
Hopefully they'll have it off for events and stuff...although I hear that it doesn't really affect the ride too much.

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Correct on both counts.

Thanks, Paula

Boo!

I'm sure the ride is still kick butt, heavy duty!

I would think one of the main reasons they are using it is to help the 'fair' designed PTCs handle such a wild ride.

Of course Mellenium Flyers would help, maybe they'll get the new single seater PTCs down the road (if they work). I've heard that GCI won't supply rides with their trains unless the ride in question satisfy's their 'force criteria' (I'm pretty sure Voyage is too wild for them...)

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Raven Maven said:
Correct on both counts.

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Phew! :)

Yay!

Disappointing for sure...I guess HW is an event only trip for me till this news changes. Yeah, yeah, I know it is still good and they have so much else etc etc; I know what you all are thinking. But I like Voyage the way it was so why go when they are trimming it after they said they wouldn't?

It was only a matter of time. That's why I went opening season at any cost.

All this excessive trimming is making me really dislike the hobby. When a coaster opens with trims already on it(didn't goliath at la ronde do this), it gets a bit ridiculous.

Aw come on BamBam36, it's not that bad.

The coaster is still kick butt. The general public (99.9999 percent of the people who ride these rides) don't know one way or another (just talk to a non-coaster geek who said he's sure the BEAST is faster than when he rode it as a kid in the 80's...)

Seems that most of the bigger B&M's (well, all of em, cept the 'batmen') come with brakes already installed.

Just be glad Holidayworld didn't add a 'trim only' brake somewhere, like between the triple down and station drop. See, that's what alot of parks would have done.

Who knows, maybe they'll reprofile a bit, or get articulated trains. Or a little length of solid 'plug n play' track on a section to cut down on maint. You never know, good thing is, the people who are in charge at Holidayworld DO care about the ride and riders.

"But I like Voyage the way it was so why go when they are trimming it after they said they wouldn't?"

So you expect HW to allow a flagship ride to tear itself apart to please you? Come on, you can't be serious.

I'll agree that this was only a matter of time, and that with the amount of effort HW puts into their coasters anyway, one minor slowdown is not that bad at all.

I rode without trims, but this ride is so good anyway I willingly waited for it 30 minutes 5 different times earlier this summer. I'd still be willing to wait over an hour.

^^Yeah, I am serious. I liked it the way it was and we had their word on no trims. Since I don't get a say in how or what is built, I don't accept any of the responsibility for those decisions. It is their park and their ride and their word and they can do what they like with it. It is my decision how I feel about trimmed rides, and I don't forgive that decision...ever. I am sure it is still good with the trim, but if it is trimless sometimes, that is the only time I would invest in a 800 mile trip. If it was always trimmed, I still would go back but not as often.

This just goes to show designers keep forgetting they're designing these mega coasters out of wood. Wood can only take so much abuse before it fails. Even Great Adventure has had to replace wood members on El Toro because of excess stress and fatigue.

ALL HAIL TO HADES! Hmmm, that almost sounds sacreligious...;)

ON 7/19/07 when I mae my visit to HW. There was no trims on Voyage on my visit. Did anyone have trim problems before then?

^ I think most stereotypical Coaster Fan Boys have "trim problems", but I digress . . .

Sorry - I could not resist ;)

I didn't boo because they have to trim it.

I booed because I don't just go to HW for events, I visit there a couple times a year and hope to get the best ride possible.

As for trimming, I just kinda wish it was done after the hill after the triple down, I think everyone needs a little break by then.

I was there labor day of last year and that long left turn prior to the Lift hop was choppy then, I was simply amazed it was still doing it at HWN when I had heard of the 1600ft of track replacement. I don't think it's the track, Hades does it on the long right turn around the Q. Yeah it might be damaging the track but I think it's either trains or banking causing it.

Chuck

Let's hope Moosh is right...it's a temporary fix until that section can be retracked. The retracking definitely makes a huge difference - last year I thought the long left turn before the reverse-banked hopes was brutal but this year it seemed way better. I also thought the section immediately prior to the final 90 was brutal last year but it was much improved this season.

Given the fact that HW was willing to get new trains for Legend we might see articulated trains for the Voyage in the somewhat near future. Perhaps a reprofile is in order?

Even if the block is on permanently, it's still gonna be insane.

Peace.

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halltd said:
This just goes to show designers keep forgetting they're designing these mega coasters out of wood.

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Yes, I'm sure the years of building wooden coasters suddenly lead to GG having completely forgotten how to build wooden coasters.

99% of the ride tracks beautifully, and considering the shear size, length, and intensity of Voyage I'd say not having it run as brutally as the roughest wooden coasters out there is quite a feat, in and of itself. That's not forgetting this is a wooden coaster, that's absolutely mastering the concept.

All indicated reports is that the ride isn't that affected and I'd imagine a lot of people, in the GP especially, are going to like the ride a lot more with the second half taken down a notch. If it keeps the ride running as beautifully has in the past I'm really all for it.

I'd much rather be slowed down a bit than jackhammered and shuffled to death.

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Craig the Coaster Freak said:

Given the fact that HW was willing to get new trains for Legend we might see articulated trains for the Voyage in the somewhat near future. Perhaps a reprofile is in order?

Peace.

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The trains are Articulated.
If you mean MFers or the new PTCs, Well come up with 180 grand times three and Im sure they'll replace em. Those are seven car trains.

Im thinking Pink Floyd Fanatic will haunt them until they turn the brake off again.

RIP Kevin! Who thought Voyage was da bomb! Im glad he found the ULTIMATE WOODIE before passing.