Vekoma Flying Dutchman?
-Paul
CP was amazing, going back next June to ride Maverick 
BG Nut said:
Also they could have coverd the brake run in some simple way to shield rides from the sun,rain ect if they are going to be parked there for a extended time.*** Edited 5/18/2006 9:15:12 PM UTC by BG Nut***
I agree ... that's a simple fix... just cover the break run... and the lift hill if possible as well... like some canvas thing that runs its length.
Why couldn't they have run a rail along the track to do the moving of the seats on the approach to the lift and at the brake run? It's alot like how X has those 3rd and 4th rails to rotate the seats. That's one thing that bothered me after riding BORG.
I did get to ride Batwing with the seats reclining on the way to the left and then raising in the brake run and it was a far superior experience comfort-wise than X-Flight and BORG's method.
~Rob Willi
Now what I remember seeing on Stealth/Borg from a couple of coaster shows previewing the ride is that there were individual bars or jacks on the station platform which contact the side wheels you mentioned & raiased the seats that way....in all the pics I've seen of Stealth/Borg the trains don't appear to have the coputer sensors built in behind the seats like Batwing & X-flight's trains have.Has anyone got a good pic of the back or side of Borg's train while in the station for comparison?
And yes, to have a flying dutchman run 3 trains properly without a train sitting on the brakes for 5mins the trains must recline on the lift. The problem however was usually with getting enough power to the lift to successfully recline. I have ridden XF while reclining on the lift and I believe it makes for a better ride. Also the ride is designed to have the trains rise as it enters the station, not on the brakes.
Two reasons XF will probably never run 3 trains. The third train was used for parts and those parts are not cheap, about $18,000 for the GAU motor (which is the part that raises and lowers the cars on the trains). That is the part that most commonly goes. Also the tracks for the brushes to lower the trains on the lift hill and been removed completely. As of now, and for a long time, XF will stay a two train operation ride.
XFlight said:
And yes, to have a flying dutchman run 3 trains properly without a train sitting on the brakes for 5mins the trains must recline on the lift. The problem however was usually with getting enough power to the lift to successfully recline. I have ridden XF while reclining on the lift and I believe it makes for a better ride. Also the ride is designed to have the trains rise as it enters the station, not on the brakes.I'm a certified to operate a Vekoma Flyer the trains don't have to go down on the lift to run three trains. If i can clear both stations in two train two station op you can run three with less than two minute stacking easily.
Power it's not a power problem with the trains Gauing down on the hill as much as it is a getting down one. If the train doesn't flag the proxes in a certain amount of time the ride stops on the lift because the trains not ready and the ride faults. In the station the Op can usualy get the train to recline and lock all the way cause there is no timeout, they can hold the switch or stop and try again.
The cost to rehab the trains is outragous doing 3 trains is around 450,000.00. So the Vekoma flyers aren't cheap
First you've got peeps who've gotta s ecure their belongings,then wiggle their way into the shoulder restraints & then you've gotta have attendants checking the lap bars which can seemingly take forever depending on the crew at any given time of day,finally you've got to unlaod the train after it's run & once again getting out for some is just as hard as getting in also factoring in the time it takes for them to grab their personal articles & clear the platform before the next group is allowed to board the train.
It would be so much easier if peeps were allowed to simply grab their lap bar as they sit down & at least pull it closed a couple of notches instead of waiting on staff to do it for them..hoever those things aren't easy to push down entirely once in the seated position so that's probably why it's not allowed.A way to solve the problem is for vekoma to redesign the harness assembly to be a bit more like the B&M restraint although given the seating & restraint configuration I doubt that this would be possible to do.
BATWING FAN SFA said:
It would be so much easier if peeps were allowed to simply grab their lap bar as they sit down & at least pull it closed a couple of notches instead of waiting on staff to do it for them..hoever those things aren't easy to push down entirely once in the seated position so that's probably why it's not allowed.A way to solve the problem is for vekoma to redesign the harness assembly to be a bit more like the B&M restraint although given the seating & restraint configuration I doubt that this would be possible to do.
That would actualy make the process take even longer due to the fact that half of the people who do that already put there legs on the outside of the cuffs. On the lose articles point in three train operation they shouldn't have any lose articles you come back in the other station.
BATWING FAN SFA said:
^As far as I know Batwing has never had the seats come up on the brakerun,I've been on it a couple of times when it was reclining on the lift though....man what a freaky sensation that was.comparison?
Same i never thought SFA had made it to that point to get the seats to come back up...
BTW
I go for my interview tomorrow with SFA .. im applying for a ride op position
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