V2: Check this out! - CoasterBuzz

Krazy said:
"Who wants to bet that SFMW reangles both spikes, yet Six Flags forgets to change the name from Vertical Velocity?
Either that or they change the name to OV: Obtuse Velocity.*** This post was edited by Krazy on 2/24/2002. ***"

LOL...and then would they call the grand re-opening "OVulation?"
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Glenn: Chris Godsey actually is one of the top guys in the amusement industry. He is one of the designer's on the Wild Country USA theme park. So I would suspect he knows much more than most, in not all, of us. :)
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I dont know what their doing, but I'm already scared.

RCTitan said:
Glenn: Chris Godsey actually is one of the top guys in the amusement industry. He is one of the designer's on the Wild Country USA theme park. So I would suspect he knows much more than most, in not all, of us.

Yes, and he also had "sources" who told him that SUF was going to be over 200ft tall. So everyone is incorrect from time to time, even people in the biz. ;)

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"Look for the big black sack of Mofuggin Nuts at your local grocery store". -- Radio ad in FL

Six Flags must be losing money on this, because the same ride 'rereleased' after just one year isn't gonna bring in the same people back into the park.

Why would Six Flags do this? This deconstructive decision obviously isn't to make more money, and if Six Flags isn't making money on a decicision, then that means they didn't want to do it. Right?

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Jimster said

I can't see them just angling the twisted spike. Wouldn't it be very uncomfortable when the train slows/stops to reverse direction. Depending on which part of the train you were sitting in, you may be thrown sideways into the otsr's. Dosen't sound like fun to me.

This is true because you will take longer to slow down but you still will be moving slowly until the train loses all of its kinetic energy. When you twisted going straight up, 1. you were on your back, 2. you went up and came down faster than you will going at a slant.

ive never been to to sfmw, so dont think im dumb for saying this but WOW Medusa really is in a parking lot, couldnt they have put some dirt or anything?

SFMW is my home park and I'm very sad that V2 will never be the same again. And yes, Chris is exactley right about what's happening to V2. They are chopping off 35 ft. to the vertical spike to make it not go over the 150ft. height limit. The twisted spike is going to be turned outwards and fly over the entrance to the park, so yes, the spiral will be more like inversions. They are doing this because the city of Vallejo is making them so V2 does not exceed the height limit.

Also, all you guys wondering why SFMW would change the ride after only being open for one year, its not MW that wants to do it. Vallejo is MAKING them do it because MW really thought they could "sneak" the ride in and have the city not notice it was 185 ft. instead of 150ft.

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I'll bet somone got fired over this fu-bar. Oh well, maybe the ride will be sweet, definitly one of a kind. I'm also surprised the city went as far as to make them change it. Personally, I think they could have just fined them some amount of money. Who is winning out on this deal? No one.

Looking at old pics of the ride makes me eager to ride it again. What a sweet ride it is! (Or, for those of you in California, what a sweet ride it was!)

I think this is kind of cool. SFMW has too many clones anyways. So now this ride will be different than all the rest.

He's got a point...

Too many clones, Alex? Have you been to SFA? :)

Either way, I always rag on SFA for having basically one custom coaster (even though their ROAR was built first and isn't even am exact clone) but honestly, coaster for coaster, SFA's line up is MUCH more attractive to me than nearby PKD *and* BGW. Clones or no clones, I really like that parks coasters.

(And now that SFMW's V2 is being modified, that means only the kiddie coaster, SLC, and boomerang are clones, really)

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"Look for the big black sack of Mofuggin Nuts at your local grocery store". -- Radio ad in FL

WRT the questions about where were the planners and zoners when they built it, here's my take.

When applying for a building permit (for a deck in my case, I would assume that a coaster would be a similar process), you first submit your plans to the local gov't. Some "expert" goes over your plans and either approves them as is, approves them with modifications, or rejects them.

I would presume that most often (as was the case with me) the plans are "approved with modifications". By suggesting some minor change, the inspector can justify his existence and payroll to his local office. The structure is then built by the homeowner/park owner.

In my case, I just built my deck the way I planned BEFORE modifications, figuring that the inspector wouldn't catch it on his second trip around. While I gambled correctly and my inspector didn't notice a thing, SFMW may have gotten caught, either by the inspection to open (which I doubt) or perhaps by an audit after community complaints about noise, etc.

The delay is likely due to the whole legal wrangling of fines vs. reconstruction like "SFMW is in violation of Code XXXX. You have 30 days to modify structure of face fines". To which, if I were SFMW, would pay a couple of small fines to keep my ride going during the season, and modify it during the off-season.

What do you guys think of that hypothesis??

Later,
EV
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That's sounds about right EchoVictor. Wow, you use actual logic, good show...
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EV, as usual, with a good explanation.

Except for one item. Whereas your "infringement" with your deck, assuming you WERE caught, would most likely involve a relatively minor amount of "deconstruction", we're talking about a multi-million dollar coaster in this case. You may have taken a very reasonable "gamble" with YOUR property. However, the SFMW folks were gambling on a MUCH larger scale, and with the amount of scrutiny parks seem to be going through these days, it just seems like it would have been a "bad bet"...IMO.

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I agree with you EV...that is the most logical explanation - SF (like many people/companies) thought they could slip one by the inspectors and probably got busted on it...The only one "hurt" in the whole deal is SF...Intamin gets another payday from the park out of it since the alleged/rumored violation would be the parks fault. Not the designer/fabricator.
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Legendary said:
"Too many clones, Alex?Ê Have you been to SFA? :)
Either way, I always rag on SFA for having basically one custom coaster (even though their ROAR was built first and isn't even am exact clone) but honestly, coaster for coaster, SFA's line up is MUCH more attractive to me than nearby PKD *and* BGW.Ê Clones or no clones, I really like that parks coasters.
(And now that SFMW's V2 is being modified, that means only the kiddie coaster, SLC, and boomerang are clones, really)
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"Look for the big black sack of Mofuggin Nuts at your local grocery store". -- Radio ad in FL"

Yes but all their clones are ones that are rarer than others. SROS rocks, Jokers Jinx will rock this year with lapbar, batwing is just plain awesome, Two/Face is fun. The kiddie is whatever (good for credit) The Mind Eraser is horriable the worst SLC I have been on (and I have been on many of them). Wild One and Roar are both custom designs and both rock. During my trip to SFA last year in Aug I had the best time at a SF park that I had last year.