I was looking for a thread like this, so here goes...
Rougarou is a really good ride:
Honestly, possibly my favorite B&M at Cedar Point along with Valravn (probably another unpopular opinion). I haven't experienced any of the roughness that others have reported so that obviously plays into the equation. In fact, I've honestly been shocked by some of the negative reviews written of it over the years since its renovation in 2015. One of those times that make me wonder whether I was riding the same ride as others lol.
But as explained in a different thread somewhere else on this site, roughness can vary so much from train, to row, to seat, to time of season, to maintenance, so I guess I've just been able to elude any bad rides on it yet. I usually go to CP in May or early June so the wheels are pretty fresh then.
Outside of Banshee, I truly do not care much for B&M inverts
(which makes perfect sense, considering that Banshee is often known as the most "un"-B&M invert to date.)
I can ride any sitdown coaster with a floor and lap bar restraint 100 times over without getting sick. But there's something about inverts in general that its just very hard to re-ride. I'm no physicist, but I guess it has to do with both belowing below the track (which amplifies feeling of the force?) and having no floor for your feet to be on to more evenly distribute the forces through your body. It all goes to your stomach.
It's for this reason that I prefer Banshee for its more graceful elements and inversions as opposed to virtually every B&M invert built before it.
But the irony is that's what many enthusiasts don't like about Banshee. Personally, I just don't like the overly-compact inversions found on the so-called old school B&M inverts. Those hairpin vertical loops and absurdly tight corkscrews found on any one of the Batman clones do nothing for me than making we want to hurl.
+1 Magnum is still the best ride at Cedar Point/on the planet. Dragster comes in ahead of Millennium. Steel Vengeance starts to bend this argument. But Maverick sucks @$$.
Beast is by far the best ride at King Island (including Orion) and still competitive in best overall wooden coaster.
Great Adventure was a lot more fun circa 1998 with Chiller, GASM, rolling thunder, Viper then the current Nitro, Toro, Chang, Ka, Joker line up.
As much as I love the Beast, it's hard for me to tell if it's better than Orion since it isn't even friggin built yet. C'mon people
At what time of day are you basing your Beast statement on? If it is 9:02 pm on June 8 then I agree with you. Otherwise Orion gets the nod.
My unpopular opinions:
1. Legend is better than Raven. Plus not to mention i got to ride next to Mick Foley back in 02 (I think it was 02 - Stark Raven Mad)
2. Big Bad Wolf (RIP) & Tennessee Tornado very underrated
3. Kennywood is overrated
Look I want to like the place but I just don't see it, I am sorry. I have been to the park a total of 6 times. However I do love Phantoms Revenge.
4. Not a fan of the smaller B&M wing coasters- too much vibration towards the end of each one
5. TTD was a mistake, 16 years later they still can't get the ride to run right.
6. Viper at SFDL is a decent ride.- yet to have a bad ride, I am always expecting though
7. Goliath at SFGA(CHI) - way overrated. Fun ride / good ride ride but falls short of NTG and not even allowed in the same sentence as SV
8. I still love Alpengeist over Raptor. - Never had a bad ride!!!
9. Lots of love towards Tatsu, Kraken, Wildfire (Maybe it's the view)
10. Didn't like Knotts. Only two visits, both in early June operations were terrible. But will go back if / when I have the chance (Live around CLE OH, not exactly close)
There is no such thing as a terrible Coaster just ones that haven't been taken care of
Mforcebob said:
My unpopular opinions:
1. Legend is better than every other coaster in the park.
Fixed that for you.
13 Boomerang, 9 SLC, and 8 B-TR clones
Viper at Darien Lake is the best Arrow looper. Kennywood sucks. Phantom’s Revenge is the most overrated coaster . It’s crap. Raptor is the worst of the B&M inverts (Although still a good ride) . El Toro is a great ride but it has some serious super boring dead spots. Tsunami J2 or whatever they call it now at Clementon was an incredible woody. (Heard it’s much worse now)
Mean Streak wasn’t all that horrible of a coaster.
Fine print: mean Streak wasn’t in my top five, Steel Vengeance is a far better ride, but I did enjoy my rides on Mean Streak.
Interesting discussion. Some of mine are:
1 - Millennium Force is world's biggest kiddie coaster. It is so boring!
2 - Diamondback VERY overrated.
3 - Leviathan is boring.
4 - Beast has not been top 10 worthy for couple of decades.
5 - Love Lost Coaster at Indiana Beach. Actually in my top 10 wood.
6 - B&M Dive coasters are meh. I honestly prefer the shorter Oblivion over Griffin and SheiKra.
7 - Thunderbolt at Kennywood overrated.
8 - Coney Island Cyclone WAY overrated. I didn't get to ride it until around 1998-2000.
9 - My favorite Cy"clone" would be Viper at SFGAm
Jerry - Magnum Fanatic
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Mean Streak was the greatest coaster on earth. At least from 91 to 94. It was awesome. Big, fast, intense, it screamed. Literally it screamed. It made a metallic squealing sound as in tore through the turns that could be heard anywhere near the coaster. I assume it was by design. This sound wasn't annoying, it was cool and added to the excitement as you were waiting in line.
Then in either 94 or 95 they added a trim brake on the first drop. This killed the ride. The speed and intensity were lost as well as the beloved sweet singing sound it used to make. I don't blame them. The ride literally tore itself apart and they did what they must. To all those who rode it after that point - you will never understand how great mean streak was. R.I.P.
Some of my unpopular opinions…
1.) Magnum should be removed. Time to get another coaster on that same plot of land (GCI along the beach, yes please!).
2.) Banshee is probably the worst B&M invert built. Granted, still a great ride and my favorite style of coaster… But they did some weird things with that ride that make me dislike it (transitions primarily).
3.) Diamondback also takes the crown as the worst of the B&M hypers… At the bottom of my list (been on all in the US, plus those at Canada’s Wonderland plus Silverstar over in Germany).
4.) Skyrush is an Intamin flop. It sucks. Terrible trains, mediocre layout and just a “ho-hum” experience. I seriously don’t get what people see in this ride…
5.) Steel Vengeance has a terrible ending sequence from the final barrel roll on that completely kills the decent first half. Overall, it’s good but not great. Middle of the road as far as RMC’s go.
6.) X2 is probably the most insane coaster experience in the US… Still have yet to ride anything that matches the “OMFG” from start-to-finish and actually take your breath away when you hit the brake run. Bouncing/roughness aside, which I can deal with, still the most insane ride experience out there I’ve experienced. Wish they would build more…
7.) Wildcat at Hershey is one of the best wood coasters in the US. Granted it needs some track work and TLC, but still…
8.) Maverick has an atrocious first drop (extremely uncomfortable and would be far better off with something ‘normal’) and the launch into the brake run is a big fail. Aside from those two things though, I dig the ride otherwise.
9.) Disneyworld is way overrated. Disneyland and DCA is a far better experience and one that I actually enjoyed (unlike my many times in Orlando in which I’m excited to leave at the end of the day). Far better off spending the day at Sea World, Universal or Busch Gardens for many reasons.
10.) GCI > RMC
This has turned into some bizarre form of enthusiast confession.
I feel like all of you all need to say 10 "Hail Schwarzkopfs" and get your heads on right.
See you next Sunday.
I once made out with 1001 nachts.
Hobbes: "What's the point of attaching a number to everything you do?"
Calvin: "If your numbers go up, it means you're having more fun."
Son of Beast was a great ride.
It's the one ride that I wanted all of my WoF friends to experience so they would quit b*^%hing about Timber Wolf being "rough".
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