Ultra Twister and SFA

Parker, do remember that SFA has an additional woodie to care for (which they do a pretty good job with IMO). But really, the BIG (huge, massive) difference between the two Roars is that *yours* does run the M-Flyers. They may not eliminate all trackwork problems, but I'll bet if you asked anyone that's worked on a GCI coaster with M-Flyers and without (hey, let's ask HP)....;)

Oh, yeah, UT....it's blue and green... :)

Take this for what its worth, but one of the guys in the upper park management at SFA said and I quote "Roar will recieve some work this offseason" when I asked about it late in 2005. How much work is anyone's guess, but I can assure you that they are aware of the state that ROAR has reached and know that enthusiasts and regular guests are begining to complain.

Remember, they ARE raising ticket prices by $13 this year, so hopefully with increased ticket prices, we will see some work done around the park such as ride maintenence, landscaping, painting, and the like.

If you can't stand the heights, get out of the line.

rollergator said:
I wasn't trying to "nicker" your cookie Jimvy, I was merely telling Mooshie that you'd prefer "a fortune" to a CC cookie OR a raisin cookie...you're not very good with granted wishes, are you? ;)
Oh, and as much as UT hurt me, I would like to try again, it was exceptionally unique...

ROFL Bill, you're just too smart for me

:)

I almost wish SFA would take that extra $13 and sink into training/keeping staff. I can live with another season of a rough riding Roar. The only part that is really bad is the last turn heading into the break run.

*** Edited 1/18/2006 6:43:22 PM UTC by coasterguts***

A day at the park is what you make it!

Agreed.Without a doubt that last turn onto the brakes is the roughest part of the entire ride.

Have to agree with you on the staff training issues as well,the crew on Supes just always seems to have a problem with slow dispatches & loading whenever I'm there....did you see how bad the lines were during FF? that was the first time in five years I'd seen the line for Supes all the way out to the overflow queue.

The problem with Superman isn't with the staff running the ride. The problem is the GP is just to stupid to realize their unable to ride because of their size/height and/or don't read the rules/listen to the announcemnts that say you can't have loose items on board. Some of the down time could be eliminated if people would just quit leaning on the air gates. I hate having to defend the staff of this park. However, some of the issues aren't with the staff. Some of the issues are with guests. However, both add up to a poor experience.

A day at the park is what you make it!

I actually didn't think Roar was that bad, and I paid attention when I rode it. They have done retracking work in the past. The new sections are easily spottable when they do. I think one of my issues with Roar is not so much the PTC trains, but that it's no HP Wildcat. That thing is way out of control from the start, where Roar has a couple of "more relaxing parts" here and there.

guts, The guest stupidity problem you mentioned could be eliminated almost entirely if Superman had a few extra ride employees. A greeter could help guest to know if they have a size issue, and an extra person or Two on the platform could be helpful with keeping the guests off of the gates.

So, you see, it IS the parks fault.

Walt Disney himself made a decision to add a sidewalk through the grass instead of putting up a "keep off the grass" sign.

Oh yeah...UT looks like a lot of fun. I hope SFA is it's new home...lol.

Alright you all gotta chill out with the SFA nocking. Suppermans problems are both guest and operators/park usualy. people can never "size/height and/or don't read the rules/listen to the announcemnts that say you can't have loose items on board. Some of the down time could be eliminated if people would just quit leaning on the air gates." SFA is always in a permanent state of being understaffed, with superman evertime theve changed the restraints theve made it harder to get people on and off the ride quickly. people can't buckle the new seatbelts or always seem to forget them. on top of that the trains are stubborn with the add on locking sesors there are tricks you gotta know and use to get trains out quickly. on to UT the easiest place for it to go in and fit is in the area that used to be occupied by python by batwing and supperman.

dexter said:
guts, The guest stupidity problem you mentioned could be eliminated almost entirely if Superman had a few extra ride employees. A greeter could help guest to know if they have a size issue, and an extra person or Two on the platform could be helpful with keeping the guests off of the gates.

Superman usually had four people on the platform, one at the controls and one greeter last season. Didn't seem to help. It willn't help unless the two people on side of the air gates walk up and down the loading platform asking people not to lean on the air gates. It would also help if those same employees would remind the next couple of people about the bag rules and check for people that might have problems fitting on the train.

It's not the restraints, people had problems with the restraints before the modifications were made.

The bottom line, the GP needs to learn, listen and read.

A day at the park is what you make it!

coasterguts said:
dexter said:
guts, The guest stupidity problem you mentioned could be eliminated almost entirely if Superman had a few extra ride employees. A greeter could help guest to know if they have a size issue, and an extra person or Two on the platform could be helpful with keeping the guests off of the gates.
Superman usually had four people on the platform, one at the controls and one greeter last season. Didn't seem to help. It willn't help unless the two people on side of the air gates walk up and down the loading platform asking people not to lean on the air gates. It would also help if those same employees would remind the next couple of people about the bag rules and check for people that might have problems fitting on the train.
It's not the restraints, people had problems with the restraints before the modifications were made.
The bottom line, the GP needs to learn, listen and read.

The trains are a large part of the problem. the useless leg gaurds, that don't do anything. the new seatbelts are hard for people to work their first couple of tries. and the sensors fault out regurly. the best addition is the ability to unlock indavidual cars instead of the entire train.

As far as I know they still have to unlock the entire train to allow someone off who doesn't quite fit.Batwing is the only coaster in the park where rows can be unlocked individually should they need to let someone off or recheck the system.

I've seem them unlock individual cars on Superman. I think Two Face is the same way.

A day at the park is what you make it!

wheels00000 said:
The trains are a large part of the problem. the useless leg gaurds, that don't do anything. the new seatbelts are hard for people to work their first couple of tries. and the sensors fault out regurly. the best addition is the ability to unlock indavidual cars instead of the entire train.

I'll take the devil's advocate approach here. No one died on Superman last year.

A day at the park is what you make it!

True no one died on superman but of course when the accident happened at SFNE they just went into overkill when it came to the restraints.

The restraint itself wasn't what led to the man's death at SFNE,it was the ops failure to recheck it after they had the man switch seats...after all the restraint doesn't do the rider much good if it's not properly used & checked before the ride is started.

BATWING FAN SFA said:
As far as I know they still have to unlock the entire train to allow someone off who doesn't quite fit.Batwing is the only coaster in the park where rows can be unlocked individually should they need to let someone off or recheck the system.

nope they changed the system last season the operator can select an indavidual car to unlock or unlock the enire train by themselves were they used to have to have the op and attendant press unlock buttons.

BATWING FAN SFA said:
True no one died on superman but of course when the accident happened at SFNE they just went into overkill when it came to the restraints.

Six Flags was only reacting to the results and the recommendations of the investigation done by the State of MA. Failure to implement those recommendations and another death on a Superman:ROS would have set the groundwork for a massive lawsuit by the family of the next victim.

A day at the park is what you make it!

I hope UT goes in the park for '06, as SFA will be an add-on to a planned PPP trip. FInally, I'll get to add a Supes to my track record! :)

*** Edited 1/22/2006 6:38:01 PM UTC by Robocoaster***

They Live. We Sleep.

I need to be there when you get one Robo...

Wow! :)

UT is *definitely* not going in for '06 though...not under this regime... ;)

*** Edited 1/22/2006 7:26:51 PM UTC by rollergator***

You never know Gator but I'd be willing to bet that UT will just sit for the time being as no permits have been requested,nor has groundwork even begun.

SFI under the former management may have decided to ship the ride to SFA before Snyder was able to gain control so whatever plans Burke & CO. had would likelystill go into effect...with your logic they should then stop construction of & dismantle the four major coasters that SFI already purchased & began building & we know that's certainly not gonna happen.

Robo you needn't come on by just for the sake of UT if you want to grab a credit on Supes...supes alone should(& probably would) be about your only reason to vist the park.