Tomb Raider: Constructive Dialogue

Monday, July 2, 2001 8:36 AM
Ok, this thread is to be bereft of overt criticism complaining that it isn't a coaster.

Instead I'd like to focus on positive details. First off....manufacturer. Since I do not know myself, can someone fill me in on who designed and built both IOA's Spiderman and Disney's Indy Jones sims? Also do their web sites mention anything in their respective news sections? Since the press release is pretty vague, I'm assuming a lot of details are still being ironed out.

Secondly...3D or not 3D? I'd almost prefer a 3D experience in simulation to that of 2D animatronics, but frankly, if the 2D is great, who cares. My hope is that it doesn't turn out to look as plastic and cartoonish as Phantom Theater, since that would be the only reason for me to dislike it. If they go grand scale, like IOA or Disney, I'll be mighty impressed, but if they go small scale effects and animatronics, I'll be more disappointed.

Third....Was there any mention of a price tag? We know about the 3 million for the building, but what about the ride itself? Any word?

Lastly....outward design. If a temple looking structure doesn't liven up a rather gloomy looking Rivertown right now, I don't know what will. While it doesn't necessarily fit the 'Rivertown' name, at least it isn't too much of a stretch. If the ride building was covered in greenery and hidden away from most peoples eyes, it might blend in very well. We'll see.

Let's try to keep this discussion positive in its direction and leave the negativity to another thread... :)

Chris
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Monday, July 2, 2001 8:45 AM
A question that it seems we will have to wait til next year to find out......what type of escape vehicle is it.....and why is the building so tall ( I thought I read like 30 stories)...I am not sure we should rule out a coaster ending yet.

Chris
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Monday, July 2, 2001 8:48 AM
I thought I read that the building was 2 stories tall and like 70,000 sq. feet or something like that.
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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:00 AM
I am excited about getting a new ride. But can they get it built in time for next year? I thought it took IOA and disney and such a year to a year and a half to build their heavily themed rides.
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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:11 AM
If its better than Spiderman heck yeah I'm going to be excited because Spiderman is a great ride the suspense will continue though until we find out more details. Looks like more waiting (sigh)
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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:16 AM
Anyone besides me want to play 20 questions with a certain Pr director right now?
I think that TR:TR has a lot of promise, but if the building is 30 stories tall, i can see a TA2K or a Dive machine in there. Even a launched coaster.

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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:20 AM
What i don't get is why isn't it in their action movie themed area?

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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:27 AM
If the building is 30 stories high, and there is a straight down dive in an escape vehicle, this sounds like a TA2K to me. The other stuff could be for the line.
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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:41 AM
30 stories?! That's 300 ft. high! If it does drop sounds like a MF.

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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:41 AM
'cane: The most resonable answer is crowd flow. There is really nothing aside from the Beast in the Rivertown area. Whereas in the Action Zone, there are four or 5 major attractions, including the three most recent biggies. They needed to put something new in the RT section to relive some of the pressure in AZ.

Oh and my feelings are any ride, whether it be a coaster, flume or scrambler is better if indoor and themed.
lata,
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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:50 AM
Someone try to find out the dimensions of the building and the square footage. Then you can see realistically what you are dealing with, and find out if it would be possible to fit a coaster inside. TA2K?
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Monday, July 2, 2001 9:57 AM
I highly doubt the building is 30 stories tall. that would make it just slightly smaller than the eiffel tower. There are a lot of questions to be asked. Most of you have ruled out the possibility of a roller coaster. WHY? They have said it is a Dark ride. However a few things to ponder. What is the escape vehicle? could it be a coaster car? plunge straight down into lava? Couldn't you do that with a coaster? To be a devil's advocate though it could also be a water ride. How better to simulate lava? It could also be spiderman's cousin. If you remember in Spiderman there is that scene that looks as though you are going sraight down. That could be done again. We need to do a little more investigation. Find the manufacturer. Talk to the construction workers when construction begins again. Finally just keep a close watch as to what is going on over that fence. I am sure we will see something. This is fun and exciting. Almost like a scavenger hunt.
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Monday, July 2, 2001 10:10 AM
Read this trillride rumor from 6/8/01

Moving on to Kings Island, I sure hope this is a bona fide clue about the park's 2002 addition:

I work for a Subcontractor in the Louisville, Ky area. We commonly bid jobs to contractors in a 4 state region (ohio, indiana, kentucky and tennessee). We get construction reports sent to us daily and today's had something rather interesting. It says 'INFERNO' Amusement Ride building Only/ Kings Mills, OH. The building is valued @ 3 million and bids on the 15th of this month. Maybe soon after that we will know exactly what 'INFERNO' is. I will continue to look into this further and see what I can find out. Just a quick note... It is a 40,000 sq ft 2 story building... ride station possibly?

"Inferno," eh?

I believe inferno is the name the PKI people made up and based it off the lava part of the ride. So the ride building is 2 story's tall it seem's



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Monday, July 2, 2001 10:11 AM
If the building is 40,000 sq. ft and is a perfect square then it is about 200 on each side.
*** This post was edited by matt1080 on 7/2/2001. ***
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Monday, July 2, 2001 10:27 AM
Well if you want a comparison, why not find out what FOF's building cost. I'm sure that could possibly give you a ballpark figure of the size/cost ratio. I don't know, but, 3 million doesn't SEEM like it'd buy a huge building to me.

Chris
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Monday, July 2, 2001 10:32 AM
Maybe it's just me, but a 20 foot drop doesn't toot my horn. Maybe the park will dig a big hole (aka. OBLIVION) in the ground. Even if they have a themed building for the queue and stuff the building doesn't seem big enough to hold everything.

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Monday, July 2, 2001 10:42 AM
Well, I think it's relatively safe to assume this thing goes upside down...check out the right-hand side picture on the Web promo page. Looks like it sorta rules out a Spiderman type ride.

http://www.pki.com/tomb_raider.jsp

Doug
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Monday, July 2, 2001 10:43 AM
There will be no 30 story building! Be realistic!! That is a building that is as tall as MF! That would overshadow everything at pki, including the beast!
I see a a big trench dug and for the most part of the que line you will prolly be going down hill. I see a a vertical coaster (bm) ending with a smal (100 ft) vertical drop at the end. Who knows though!?!?
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Monday, July 2, 2001 10:44 AM
That ride description sounds too much like Inferno. Damn!
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Monday, July 2, 2001 10:48 AM
The building that houses the ride is not that big--only about approx 90' x 75' x 90'(OR SO!!--that is not definate, but what I can remember a parks spokesperson saying to other guests.) Did anyone think about the possiblility of building DOWN?? (....underground, that is....)

Neil
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