Thoughts About Outlaw Run

bunky - and anyone else curious....a little searching around the Rocky Mountain site was really helpful for me in terms of the new "semi-wooden/steel" technology. Check out the descriptions and the portfolios for I-box and Topper track under the "Services" tab.

http://www.rockymtnconstruction.com/

blasterboy6500 said:

^No, it's not. Hey Travis, how do you know it's going to be smooth? I mean, you would expect the park to not make it too rough, but how do you know it's going to be that smooth. I couldn't really tell by the POVs on YouTube.

It's a steel rail. It's not going to move, shrink, warp or get sloppy in the way that a true wooden coaster will.

Because a smooth and quiet ride is the special feature of the new coasters coming from Rocky Mountain. Wondering if it will be rough is not worth the trouble, because previous coasters built by this company in this way have been reported to be hot butter smooth. :)

Mmmmm..hot butter.

Richard Bannister said:

Iron Rattler and New Texas Giant are steel coasters, sure:

http://rcdb.com/2.htm?p=29287

So whats up with the bolt heads sticking up out of the top of the road wheel surface? I mean how do the road wheels not hit those?

^This picture might answer that.

Link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rollerfan/5738810758/

The wheels stay inside the rails and in between the nuts on the top. It's a bit hard to explain in words.

blasterboy6500 said:

...between the nuts on the top. It's a bit hard...

*snort*

(sorry, I just HAD to)

LOL (CAPS LOCK IS REQUIRED) :P

Lord Gonchar said:

blasterboy6500 said:

...between the nuts on the top. It's a bit hard...

*snort*

(sorry, I just HAD to)

Hahaha... Classic!! I needed to laugh. Thanks!

blasterboy6500 said:

^This picture might answer that.

Link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rollerfan/5738810758/

The wheels stay inside the rails and in between the nuts on the top. It's a bit hard to explain in words.

That wheel assembly is in close quarters to the bolts. Can you imagine if it came out of alignment during ride time?

If the wheel assembly comes loose, hitting the bolts sticking up would be the least of my concerns.

Though I will say that I thought the same thing when I initially saw it, I realized that on tubular steel coasters, there's nothing there at all.

Alright, I'd never thought I'd say this, but I think we have an El Toro murderer on our hands. It really did pain me to say that OR might beat my current favorite woodie, but it really is an engineering marvel. RMC deserves all the credit they can get. What else can you expect from the company that helped design El Toro? (I didn't know that till yesterday :P) I previously was let down about the double barrel roll going uphill, but the hangtime on the second one has been reported to be unreal. The wall crawler, as people have been calling it, seemed to deliver lateral ejector airtime. I am speechless. EastCoasterGeneral from CF put this ride as his #2 above El Toro and the Voyage. Wow...

It's funny because I just talked to my husband about wanting to go ride Outlaw Run, and I said I think it may be an El Toro killer! However, I won't believe it until I ride it.

Check out this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg_VN9nV3vE

Pay attention to all that airtime in such a short length of track, and more importantly, look at the hangtime on the second barrel roll at the very end. Insane. Period. That might be the coolest moment on any coaster I've seen so far. Just think about how much designing and planning it would have taken to accomplish such a feat. Holy crap, I cannot wait till summer. I'm changing my plans to ride this thing.

Using video to point out airtime is pretty unreliable. I've seen videos of El Toro that make it look pretty lame, and nothing has come close to airtime like El Toro's except for Skyrush (and until Skyrush gets its restraints taken care of, all that beautiful air is a waste).

I think normal POVs tend to be unreliable, but reverse POVs (like the one I linked) tend to be more accurate IMO. All three reverse povs on YouTube (ones of ECG, Robb Alvey, and StopDropCoaster) show them flying out of their seats for about 4-5 times during their videos. I chose to link this particular video since it's in the back row, and mainly because both riders are getting some serious hangtime with just lapbars on the second barrel roll.

I've heard from media day reports that the emptier the train the better the hang time was on the 2nd roll. A heavier full train had enough speed and momentum that it went through a little faster. The vid you reference, Blasterboy, shows them as the only riders, so that might make sense.
This ride's gonna be mighty popular, so from here on out an empty train ride might be elusive. That is unless you sprint the second the rope drops.

^I get your point, but it shouldn't make THAT much of a difference, should it? Full train or not, I think that roll is still going to pack some sick hangtime. Okay, maybe I shouldn't get that confident in this ride.

Hang time with only a lapbar is downright scary to me, so I don't think this would kill El Toro for me if that is indeed true. But that's just me.