Now, back to Big Dipper. Cept for a few rough spots (or seats) that ride has run great, since what, 1921 or something?
Coaster Junkie from NH
I drive in & out of Boston, so I ride coasters to relax!
I know Ghostrider. Ghostrider is a friend of mine. Villian is no Ghostrider!
I wholeheartedly agree with that statement. I rode GhostRider before The Villain -- having heard the comparisons, and believe me, I got off thinking The Villain is miles and miles from being anything close to the ride GhostRider is. Gerstlauer trains or not, GhostRider has a much more dynamic layout than The Villain and overall a much, much better coaster.
I remember thinking after The Villain..."people have this in their top 10?"
Fact is, It's a good coaster, can be and should be and is a prime candidate for relocation and getting rid of that POS maintainence nightmare Mean Streak. Simply putting it's trains on Villain will be a big difference.
Dave said: "Villian would run *great* with a set of 2-bench PTC trains."
Thanks Dave. :)
LOL, seriously, it is powerful, but the trains are nothing short of devastating to the riders AND the ride. Increase the banking on the turns during the relocation (a la Fetterman) drop in a set of short-base PTCs...maybe even the new single-row version, and you'd have a seriously good ride. One that CF would be well-served to move to...? Have to admit, I kinda think ThunderHawk at Dorney has that *creative layout*, and that Villain might work there. WoF's Timber Wolf, OTOH, is too much of an O-n-B to be a serious candidate for Villain, as is the case with PGA's Grizzly. Those parks might both be considered candidates for RWB....if CF was going to keep it running - not esp. likely, eh? ;)
Maybe RWB could move to CP and replace MS? :)
Long live the Big Bad Wolf
If that's the case, then why was Cedar Point able to have High Frolics and Leap the Dips side by side along what is now the main midway? For that matter, why do they have both Blue Streak and Magnum XL-200 today? How can Holiday World justify having both the Raven and the Legend? Kennywood with both Racer and Jack Rabbit built on the same ravine? For years, the Double Loop and Corkscrew co-existed at Geauga Lake. Why?
The point is, just because a park has a ride that has something in common with another ride doesn't necessarily tell you whether that new ride is a good fit for the park in question. The question is, is the ride a good fit for the park?
--Dave Althoff, Jr.
WoF's Timber Wolf, OTOH, is too much of an O-n-B to be a serious candidate for Villain, as is the case with PGA's Grizzly. Those parks might both be considered candidates for RWB
RWB resembles Timber Wolf more than Villan. When I first rode the Raging Wolf Bobs it was obvious that it came from the same designer, the flat banked turns being the dead giveaway. I actually considered Raging Wolf Bobs a "mini Timber Wolf" and I really don't think it would help diversify WOF's coaster offerings.
Even though I prefered RWB to Villan, Villan would be a better addition to WOF (but not as good as Big Dipper). *** Edited 9/27/2007 11:58:38 PM UTC by WOF Guy***
Prowler. Opens May,2 2009.
RideMan said:Who ever said that a park could only have one of any type of coaster at any given time?
That's taking it a bit far, LOL. More to where I was going is that there's a *tendency* to want to diversify your offerings. You can certainly have whatever you want to have, but for the most part, a park would like to appeal to as broad an audience as possible. That's just good business sense.
Wooden coasters have a bad rep among the GP for being "too rough". Villain certainly could meet that definition in the eyes of most, so if it's going anywhere, hopefully it'll get some much needed "smoothening". hopefully without losing too much of the intensity... ;)
*** Edited 9/28/2007 2:54:26 AM UTC by rollergator***
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