Superman: ultimate Flight worth it?

That's actually a really cool idea. Can you imagine a Universal or Disney level themed flyer where you fly over a city and you can see down into and watch other heroes and villians fight each other? That would be sweet!

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Acoustic Viscosity said:
On behalf of Adventureland, I will gladly accept Georgia Cyclone AND Texas Giant, Andy. ;)

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I must've just hit GA Cyclone on a bad day...twice. I really thought I was going to die and about halfway through the first turnaround I thought, "This probably isn't even worth the credit."

^LOL. On my first ride, I thought I was going to slip out on the fourth drop. It freaked me out. It is rough; I will give you that, but man, it has some serious airtime. I so wish I could have ridden it when it was brand new--smooth and without trims.

A heavily themed flyer like the one described above sounds awesome!

"Has any one else thought about this but dosen't B&M just make 3 or 4 copys of a new gimic ride.
Like how Medusa was the first floorless and now there is 4 copys. Like how Superman: Ultimate Flight was the first B&M Flying and now there is 3 copys."

Technically speaking, there has only been 1 copy of the original floorless coaster, and that is Scream at SFMM (mirror copy). Every other floorless coaster in the world has a unique layout.

Also technically speaking, there have only been 2 "copies" of the original S:UF. I've never ridden SFoG's, but it's probably the best. SFGAm's is nice, and they did a decent job with the landscaping. SFGAdv's, while not over asphalt, still isn't done as well as SFGAm's.

What I'd like to know is why SF went back to a duel loading station with Tatsu after abandoning it after the first S:UF. Did they figure they'd give it another go this time?

IMO, B&M builds the best "flyers". Like RCT2, Vekoma's versions are more like "lay-down" coasters. To me, they are more complex and less comfortable, plus they lack the B&M smoothness. To date, I've ridden all 3 Vekoma flyers, plus 2 S:UFs and Tatsu. I would rank them as follows (from best to worst):

Tatsu (easily #1)
S:UF at SFGAm
S:UF at SFGAdv
Batwing
X-Flight
Borg Assimilator

I guess it's what you're looking for in a "flyer" that determines how much you like the ride. I like a smooth, comfortable ride. I like it to have positive Gs, but also like to mimic the flying position most of the ride. B&M have passed with flying colors on this, and Vekoma has not. We can give Vekoma credit, however, for basically pioneering this concept in recent years. But leave it to B&M to perfect the concept.

The only thing that B&M haven't perfected (of the types of coasters they do) is stand up coasters, but they've come the closest.

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Hamster Boy said:
Has any one else thought about this but dosen't B&M just make 3 or 4 copys of a new gimic ride.

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Like stated before me, the parks tell B&M what kind of ride they want and buy it from them. B&M doesn't make copies and go around asking if parks want to install one. It doesn't work like that.

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Like how Medusa was the first floorless and now there is 4 copys. Like how Superman: Ultimate Flight was the first B&M Flying and now there is 3 copys.

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Where did you get the idea that there are four copies of SFNJ's Medusa? There's only one (Scream! at SFMM) and that's still a mirror image and is slightly taller and faster. I find it funny a lot of enthusiasts still assume SFMW's Medusa is a clone of the Great Adventure one just because they share the same name. SFMW's Floorless is a custom-designed ride with a layout quite different from the New Jersey Floorless.

And there are only two "clones"/"copies" of Superman Ultimate Flight, not three.

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kRaXLeRidAh said:
Like stated before me, the parks tell B&M what kind of ride they want and buy it from them. B&M doesn't make copies and go around asking if parks want to install one. It doesn't work like that.

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Unlike Vekoma... ;)

I also wondered why they went to dual station for Tatsu.

If an even half decent crew is working an S:UF, it will barely stack and Tatsu has a much longer layout. My limited experience of oG's is that it stacks the third train fairly regularly.

That said, a lot of the crews at GAdv. aren't half decent! :-P

Well when I say there is 3 copys of Medusa is I mean similar layouts. I say that Kraken and Medusa SFMW are similar becuase there layout is the same but streched out or swithched out a element.

Also when i said that there are 3 copys of Superman: Ultimate Flight. I meant that there is 2 copys and 1 original.

O.K. !!!!!!

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Hamster Boy said:
Well when I say there is 3 copys of Medusa is I mean similar layouts. I say that Kraken and Medusa SFMW are similar becuase there layout is the same but streched out or swithched out a element.

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Similar layouts (in which inversions are arranged) are prevelant on most B&M's so you can't correlate the word "copies" with "similar" - or else you'd just be saying EVERY B&M is a copy of another B&M.

FYI, Kraken and SFMW's Medusa only look similar to you because of the way their first drop and first three inversions appear - which is the same, however, after the heartline camelback, the rides are quite different. It's as easy as comparing photos up in RCDB. You might want to try it out.

gator: Don't ask me why I want to ride again, I'm just weird like that! Although when I've been on a really bad ride, I often feel the urge to ride again to make sure it was really THAT bad.

For some reason the one at SFGAm seems more auxhilirating to me. Maybe I'm just going crazy though. At Great Adventure, there are easy ways to get around the wait.

It's a damn fun ride, but three hours is pushing it for any ride.

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Rob Ascough said:
But at least the park landscaped underneath the ride, unlike some B&Ms in California!

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Yeah, but think how easy it will be to take it apart once the park is closed forever. ;)

I personally like SUF. I have ridden the ones at SFoG and SFGAm and like them a lot. I however will not wait more than an hour for either -- you just have to know when to queue and when not to queue for the rides.

Waited about 45 minutes each for a couple rides on the Superman at SFGAm this week. Was worth the wait both times, I think it's a great attraction. Was the only steel coaster in the park I bothered to ride more than once.

^What about RB and B:TR (sure theres a lot of them but theyr'e good rides.)

Raging Bull was ruined by the trim on the hills, it was ok but not really a great ride. Nothing that made me want to go again. And I've been on about ten Batman the Ride's, so no real incentive to keep riding that.

B&M flyers are still unusual enough that I wanted to experience it twice. We've got nothing like it here in Texas.

Funny, there's TWO steel coasters I *loved* at SFGAm....and B:TR, S:UF, and RB were neither of them. V2 and Whizzer, OTOH... :)

I probably could have gone for another round on V2 and Whizzer, but honestly after paying $15 to park and observing all the food prices which were double all the non-Six Flags parks we'd visited that week - we were hungry and wanted to leave and find reasonable food.

I appreciate the cleanliness and more efficient ride operation with the new regime, but honestly these are things which should be a given at an amusement park, not something to pay a premium for.