I think the teachers in today's society generally get the raw end of the deal by having their powered to teach handicapped by the restricted ability to do any thing (like teach) without the fear of getting sued.
To me, its then suprising to me that this teacher is so pre-occupied with thinking of people someone could sue that he/she sounds like he/she may have some issues that go further then most people's.
That being said, I imagine this conversation could have stemmed from a discussion in a law class where they were talking about negligence cases. In that situation I could understand where this question is coming from. Other then that I'm baffled by the amount of the teacher's time on his/her hands.
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I guess technically you could sue them. But, in reality, if say you slip in the station, it could have been raining and there is no way that the park could prevent that anymore than they already do. And there would be considerations such as, were you running or doing something stupid? I personally wouldnt sue for just slipping, because you most likely wouldnt even get hurt. But say a harness flew up on the ride and you fell out and broke a leg, then I would sue. But that is just my opinion. I wouldnt care if it was my home park, or a park I hated. I dont think there has been a park that I have hated though.
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I HATE SNOW!!! I am boycotting snow, I refuse to have fun in it.
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Rob
I HATE SNOW!!! I am boycotting snow, I refuse to have fun in it.
If I were injured due to a parks ngligence, I would certainly expect to be compensated. If that required suing, I would do so.
As most of you know, I am opposed to Federal rugulation of amusement rides. The flip side of this is "How do you keep the parks safe and responsibe without government intervention?" The answer is tort law. (Laws such as the right to sue for negligence which are based more on tradition than acts of legislature.) The fact that negligence will cost the park money is a powerful motivator for parks to be cautious and safe.
Nitro,
It's a hard call. My wife has taught me to read everything. Fine print and all. She worked GR at SFGAm for 2 years, and says that experience taught her a lot. Parks will usually write somewhere (on the tickets) that they are not responsible for any injuries incurred while in the park. They have to. They can't say "Hi. We know you might get hurt. If you do, that's OK. We'll compensate you anyway!" That would be plain bad business. There may or may not be dangers inherent with a park's operation. By accepting the ticket for admission to the park, you are accepting their terms of service, including indemnifying and holding harmless the park in any event of injury. What puzzles me is that people still sue, and win. I know that a vast majority of people don't read the fine print. I understand that. I didn't for a long time. Having said this, I wouldn't be able to sue the park.
However, I do also understand the neglegence issue. I personally don't believe that parks intend to be neglegent. They can't. Obviously. However, neglegence is a very hard thing to prove. If a park is truly neglegent, I don't know. I still revert back to the ticket issue. Parks have a responsiblity to properly train their employees. They have a vested interest in properly training their employees. We can go on and on in an endless debate over whether or not this actually happens. Fact is, there is no possible way that ride ops can be trained to handle EVERY situation that they may come upon. Who would have ever thought that girl's foot would have gotten caught in Cajun Cliffpuker at SFGAm? Or who knew that when I put my hands up on Blue side of Eagle that in the helix, if I stretched, I could touch one of those pine trees? Or who would have known that on Batman, right after the first loop, they planted a pine tree that was a little too tall, and it hit my foot the first season? You can't train for all the possibilities that exist, as they are endless. I don't believe for a minute that lack of training in unknown areas and circumstances can be considered neglegence. But, maybe.
All that said, I still don't think that I could sue a park.
Plink Plink... My $0.02
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So, here's a question, just to play devils advocate:
You're riding a rollercoaster at a major park. While riding, your 14 year old son's restraints fail, and falls out of his seat, and he falls 70 feet to the ground. Your son breaks and tears his leg in many places, and it costs years of surgeries and mounds of money to restore it back to its somewhat original state, even though your son will walk with an obvious limp for the rest of his life, and not be able to do some jobs because of it in the future. Oh yeah, and he was a track star, and in marching band, which is no longer.
You wouldn't sue the park just because you liked the ride?
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Then after I gained composure and *finally* submitted my claims to Blue Cross/Blue Shield and after getting bounced around there, I'd probably give a call to Sainotz, Kirk and Miles (or if I was back in the Chi Peter Francis Gerraci ;)) and see if I could recoup some of those *future* medical expenses.
lata,
jeremy
--"Sometimes, S-H happens. Somebody's gotta deal with it. And who you gonna call?" Dr. Peter Venkman: "GhostBusters 2"
du8die:
Parks can write whatever they want on the back of their tickets, but legally it means very little. The law of the state overrides any contract.The statement on the back of the ticket might be a contract, but if that contract conflicts with the law it cannot be enforced. It's the same thing as the warnings that manufacturers were putting on hammers for a while that said not to hit anything hard with them, like a nail. It's just not enforcable.
2Hostyl said:
I'd probably give a call to Sainotz, Kirk and Miles (or if I was back in the Chi Peter Francis Gerraci ) and see if I could recoup some of those *future* medical expenses.
LOL. Dont know if I would trust a lawyer that has to advertise on T.V. By the way, doesnt Peter Francis Gerraci just specialize in bankruptcy cases?
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You know what, If it's the parks fault................get over it!!!!!!!!!!. 2million dollars will not unbreak a leg or bring someone back to life. Sueing is just another way for lawyers to make money. A good park will pay the doctor bills, and that would be enough for me. Basically, I think sueing is for lazy losers who don't make any money................................no I have not been sued before :)
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Boat,
Have you ever been hurt in an accident to the point of being incapacitated for any amount of time? I have - and you know what - I deserved what I got in my settlement. It's called compensation for pain and suffering. (And in some cases it's also for loss of future earnings and future medical costs - which was not the case in my situation.)
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I HATE SNOW!!! I am boycotting snow, I refuse to have fun in it.
Boat69 said:
You know what, If it's the parks fault................get over it!!!!!!!!!!. 2million dollars will not unbreak a leg or bring someone back to life. Sueing is just another way for lawyers to make money. A good park will pay the doctor bills, and that would be enough for me. Basically, I think sueing is for lazy losers who don't make any money................................no I have not been sued before
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Yeah that is true peaople are sueing other people over nothing, what has the world come to? I agree with you Boat69, money will not bring anything back, people just want to try to make a buck off of nothing.
Redmann,
YES, I have been injured before, and had to go to the hospital for something that was not my fault, but I am alive , and no amount of money could prevent those injuries from happening. I will not say where or when, but the "company" paid the hospital bill, and that was enough for me. Like I said "compensation for pain and suffering is a load of crap and you probably just needed to pay some bills and it was the perfect time for you to get some money. People like yourself who sue for those reasons beleive money will make your problems magically go away, and that is STUPID!. Those are my opinions, and if you don't like them, I will not lose sleep tonight!.
*** This post was edited by Boat69 on 3/8/2002. ***
Well, Boat, you can say what you want...As can I. I do not believe either of us will change our minds on this. But to personally slam me as "STUPID!", I find that insulting. I did not insult you, please do not insult me.
As far as me, "just needing to pay bills" - I do not have (nor had) any outstanding outstanding bills. My wife and I both work and make a good living and pay our bills in full each month.
The insurance company for the responsible party offered me a reasonable offer that included both P&S and medical bill payment. I did not "get rich" and my problems did not "go magically away" -- and that was not my goal.
*** This post was edited by redman822 on 3/8/2002. ***
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