Steel Vengeance closed for minor accident

Sunday, May 20, 2018 12:53 PM

I know this is pretty unrelated to this thread but I've noticed that the train on Steel Vengeance rock just a little bit well guests are loading/unloading. Is this a common RMC thing? Or just something with the new trains? Didn't wanna start a whole 'nother thread for this little question...

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Monday, May 21, 2018 6:34 PM

The Steel Vegence trains do have visible springs on the wheels, perhaps that causes a little bit of bounce when entering, sort of what a car does.

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 5:45 PM

I hope this isn't against the rules but here's an off-ride video of SteVe testing today w/ the MCBR absolutely wrecking the speed of the second half of the ride. Look at it slow to a crawl now :(.

This is awful.

https://twitter.com/ItsMikeSimon/status/1002301190036770816/video/1

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:26 PM

So is your acronym choice.

Last edited by TheMillenniumRider, Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:27 PM
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Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:22 PM

If Tony Clark posted that people should no longer use CP or MF would you continue to be his foot soldier and enforce his will across the internet? SteVe isn't exactly attractive but the enthusiast community has had a thing for acronyms probably long before you existed on this planet. Tony might want to look up the Streisand effect before he tries to police grammar again.

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:40 PM

No, Its really stupid. SteVe. Its trying to humanize it and its stupid and completely different than a years old (non enthusiast habit) of shortening something by the first letters of each word like CP or MF or TTD. I'm not calling it ToThrDra. That's stupid.

Foot soldier? Seriously?

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:51 PM

So long as we can keep saying LoCoSuMo. Because really, if you're going to give a coaster an awkward 10-syllable name, you're just asking for it.

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:27 PM

I love that a commonly used acronym is more controversial than the year’s biggest ride getting neutered a day before Coastermania.

Ok!

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Thursday, May 31, 2018 11:01 PM

Seriously, if you can't type it out, what's so terrible about SV? We only have so many keystrokes before we die. I pledge allegiance, to the Tony, one Twitterer, from Cedar Point, with enthusiasts and Lemon Chills for all.

Also, I don't see anything particularly slow about the exit of the train through the midcourse.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 12:36 AM

Ok, SV it is then, but looking at any video from past weeks compared to that twitter video is at least a 50% speed reduction.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 8:48 AM

I call shenanigans. I did a lot of laps on that thing, and it's not running out at half speed. Even if it did, most of the second half is so far lower that even from a dead stop it would likely be hauling ass the entire way back.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 9:01 AM

Opening weekend people were getting ejector air in the front row coming off the MCBR... now you don’t even get floater in the back row. That’s a big difference.

I can understand being “meh” about discussing it because we can’t change anything about the situation but it’s pretty weird to downplay a huge change in the season’s biggest ride imo.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 9:08 AM

RollrCoastrCrazy said:
Opening weekend people were getting ejector air in the front row coming off the MCBR... now you don’t even get floater in the back row. That’s a big difference.

I can understand being “meh” about discussing it because we can’t change anything about the situation but it’s pretty weird to downplay a huge change in the season’s biggest ride imo.

I’m guessing that any “downplaying” has to do with the fact that for many here this is not their “first rodeo” and they’ve heard coaster enthusiast make spurious claims about changes to rides more than once. If you listen to proclamations made by enthusiast you would believe that the Beast now has more trim brakes than total track.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 9:18 AM

Goodness, we enthusiasts are so predictably awful.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 9:19 AM

RollrCoastrCrazy said:

Opening weekend people were getting ejector air in the front row coming off the MCBR... now you don’t even get floater in the back row. That’s a big difference.

Relax... It was testing. Wait until they open the ride again and judge it then.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 10:14 AM

The emotion you have invested in this is clearly clouding your objectivity. You're using words and phrases like "absolutely wrecking," "slow to a crawl," "awful" and "neutered," so it's hard to take you seriously. Have you ridden the ride since this supposed 50% reduction in train speed at the MCBR? Have you ridden it at all? Also, people's ability to classify what type of air time they're getting at different points along the ride from different seats is about as reliable as...well, something that's not at all reliable (sorry, I don't have a clever example).

Keep in mind that a 50% reduction in speed at the MCBR does not translate to a 50% reduction in the train's top speed during the second half of the ride. The video shows the train passing a common point in about 2 seconds after it comes out of the brake run. I'm not sure how long the train is, but let's say the wheel base is double a Millennium Flyer's wheel base, which is 42". So that means the train is 42 ft long and thus its speed in the video coming out of the brake run is ~21 ft/sec. That translates to 6.9 ft of energy. The MCBR is about 90 ft tall, so you can see the discrepancy. Even if the train is going half as fast as it would without any trimming, as you claim (doubtful), then its "normal" energy head would be 27.4 ft. Add that to the 90 ft drop, and you're only talking a 9% difference in top speed between the two scenarios. Not sure what the threshold is for neutering, but I don't think it's 9%.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 12:09 PM

This is so odd. Is everyone else just going to pretend that they wouldn't like to have had a trimless ride on this beast? I'm not being dramatic and saying we need to burn the ride down or anything but c'mon... it's not running how it was when it opened and when the POV's were all taken.

I guess others can just pretend that that didn't happen, like some tried to do when i305 got its trims shortly after opening. I remember this same sentiment about "wahhhh enthusiasts are whining" but anyone who ever rode both versions knew it was the truth.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 12:20 PM

Okay, so you’ve exposed the awful truth? Now what? Nothing is going to change. How do you know the ride won’t still be fun? You can take it for what it is, but something tells me you’ll be more satisfied with being miserable.

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Friday, June 1, 2018 12:21 PM

You mean that 6 second video that's completely obscured by trees? That video?

C'mon.

I'm on my way to CP right now to hopefully get a couple rides in on my way to work. (And maybe just maybe take advantage of 2 train ops before Fastlane slows it back to the speed of single train ops.)

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Friday, June 1, 2018 12:37 PM

You're setting yourself up for disappointment, and that's no way to live. If you fixate on the mid course trim, then the moment you feel that little tug you're going to spend the rest of the ride with a frowny face and your arms folded. Just enjoy yourself. You're not going to convince everyone else here that they should be as worked up as you are.

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