Posted | Contributed by Draco
I got to take a tour of Morgan Manufacturing last month and my local ACE rep just sent me this email:
This may be of particular interest especially to those who took part in the recent ACE Northern California tour of Morgan Manufacturing back on April 30th. It looks like we were the first to see the new world record holder for height, length and speed.
I admit I had to go to a metric conversion web site but I did the math and here are the results:
Maximum height: 318.24'
Vertical drop: 307.46'
Maximum speed: 95mph
Track Length: 8151.69'
Angle of descent: 68 degrees
Total investment: 5.5 billion-yen
Hourly capacity: 1,476 pph
Opening date: August 1, 2000
WOW!!!
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Attachment: Forwarded Message
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:06:13 -0700
Subject: Nagashima Spaland Year 2000 Coaster, Steel Dragon 2000
The following statistics are from the Nagashima Spaland official press release on May 25. We expect to have permission from our client to post site photos on our website by next Friday, June 5th. Thank you!
Steel Dragon 2000
Maximum height: 97m
Vertical drop: 93,5m
Maximum speed: 153/km/h
Track length: 2,479m
Angle of descent: 68 degrees
Total investment: 5.5 billion-yen
Hourly capacity: 1,476 pph
Opening date: August 1, 2000
To Riverbeast, while I ws looking at the construction photos of SFNE S:ROS I began drooling all over my self. While I have not ridden it yet I would have to agree it has GREAT RIDE written all over it. Now to Jeff and any one else out there. The reason most steel coasters don't seem to age well is because of their initial design flaws or the parks lack of maintenance or a combination of both. IN MY OPION(again, this is just my opinon) MOrgans STEEL FORCE is smoother that MAGNUM ever was. This I believe is because Morgan uses a shock absorber on their wheel bogies to keep them from hunting as they are going down the track. Arrow uses no such shock absorber, thus all of Arrow's coasters pick up a little snaking action through out the train. It's kind of the same reason the back of a wood coaster train is a little rougher than the front. If Arrow were to redesign their wheel bogies to operate more in the fashion of Swarzchkopf(sorry about the spelling) or B&M then all of thier coasters would probably be a little smoother(even considering some of the poor transitions Arrow has on thier curves). It should not really matter if the wheel system is wrap around or not. Secondly(I'll make this shorter), composite wheels wear out. All I can say to the parks is change them. New wheels equals less play which equals less hunting motion.
Wheels aside, though, Arrow and older Morgan track designs are fundamentally flawed in that the ties are too large and bend, and are furthermore spaced too far apart. I can't think of a better example of this than on Magnum's pretzel. You can see where the paint is worn at regular intervals because the rails have warped between ties.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
Jeff could you specify which older Morgan designs you are referring to. I am only familiar with thier solid plate ties(same idea as B&M, just internal tracking as opposed to wrap around) found on thier hypers, including thier first, WILD THING. Also I forgot to put in on my last comments,everyone should remember not everyone likes every coaster. For the lucky few who actually get to ride both coasters I'm sure some will swear MF is the king while others will say SD can not be beaten. Different strokes for different folks.
Yeah, those are the ones I'm talking about that wrap around. That's why I think they'll be better off with SD's design because it means shorter ties.
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
Smooth or rough.. I don't really care, as long as I'm riding them!! :)
Here's what I think... Coasters are known all over for the roughness. No doubt Magnum was smooth when it first debuted. It got rougher as time went on. The same will happen to any other hyper/giga coaster. Wear and tear will eventually be it's downfall if not taken care of. But who even cared about the roughness of the magnum before MF came out? I sure didn't. I know a lot of you didn't. It was simply the best out there, and to me, still is way up there on my list! The same thing will happen to MF and SD as time progresses. Other coasters will come out and you will look back and say, "Man Millennium Force is a rough ride!" I can almost certainly guarantee that! Like a coaster for its thrills, don't dislike it because of it's feel. Every coaster has its own distinct personality if you will... I prefer Magnum's :)
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Shawn Bailes
Webmaster of Coasters R Us
http://coastersrus.home-page.org
Maybe I'm overanlyzing, but I think we're missing the point with all these stats and which one is higher or faster or steeper. Slowly but surely coasters are becoming pure thrills and not true rollercoasters. If you want to know what a roller coaster really is, go see the Jack Rabbit at Kennywood (if u already haven't). It may be only 45ft high and go 40mph, but I have more fun on that coaster than I do on any other in the world. Thats not to say rides like MF are not incredible, thrilling experiences, but they're just not everything a coaster is supposed to be. I fear that as coasters are getting higher and faster,the days of building rides like Viper and The Raven may soon be over, and with it the feeling of true "stand-up" air time. I may be wrong, but its just my opinion.
i have rode the Millennium Force and the coaster is amazing the80 degree drop is so great. it would make the dragon 68 degree drop seem stupid plus after the first hill on the force doesnt end the ride the rest of te coaster is amazing to from the banked turns to the the second hill plus the constantent speed it never slows down its the best its gonna be hard to beat
I prefer SFDL smaller S;ROS to MF. Superman has action to it where as MF seems to be just a super smooth, super tall, super fast ride that really does not do much. As an example of what I really prefer, my all time favorite steelie currently is Kennywoods Steel Phantom. Nothing but kick ass g-forces of every kind from start to finish with no slow spots in between. I will be kissing it good-bye forever this weekend and hoping whatever takes it spot can reasonably compare.
RPMGuitar
i think they have a custom B&M inverted named pyrennes
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