Posted | Contributed by Draco
I got to take a tour of Morgan Manufacturing last month and my local ACE rep just sent me this email:
This may be of particular interest especially to those who took part in the recent ACE Northern California tour of Morgan Manufacturing back on April 30th. It looks like we were the first to see the new world record holder for height, length and speed.
I admit I had to go to a metric conversion web site but I did the math and here are the results:
Maximum height: 318.24'
Vertical drop: 307.46'
Maximum speed: 95mph
Track Length: 8151.69'
Angle of descent: 68 degrees
Total investment: 5.5 billion-yen
Hourly capacity: 1,476 pph
Opening date: August 1, 2000
WOW!!!
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Attachment: Forwarded Message
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:06:13 -0700
Subject: Nagashima Spaland Year 2000 Coaster, Steel Dragon 2000
The following statistics are from the Nagashima Spaland official press release on May 25. We expect to have permission from our client to post site photos on our website by next Friday, June 5th. Thank you!
Steel Dragon 2000
Maximum height: 97m
Vertical drop: 93,5m
Maximum speed: 153/km/h
Track length: 2,479m
Angle of descent: 68 degrees
Total investment: 5.5 billion-yen
Hourly capacity: 1,476 pph
Opening date: August 1, 2000
Most of you guys are acting like somebody died. You should all be happy that there is another huge coaster somewhere in the world. If it was installed in an easier to get to place, most of you would be all gitty about this coaster, and forget about MF...
And if it will make you feel any better just think about Intamin hypers vs. Morgan hypers... Chances are Steel Dragon won't even compare to S:ROS.
However, personally, the only reason I am dissapointed about Steel Dragon is that it is so far away...
Here We Go!!!
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Steve
And is there anyone out there, other than Jeff, who isn't so biased toward CP that they can't see straight? MF and Steel Dragon will to two different ride experiences. I don't think there is anything SD could do to please you guys. If it had a 85 degree drop, you guys would say they copied MF, since it doesn't, you say the drop sucks. You say it's a Magnum rip-off, yet I don't hear anyone complaining about Magnum. You say it can't be as good as MF, why? because you'll never ride it? C'mon people, let's try to be a little more objective when we compare a coaster that hasn't even begun construction yet.
For all you people that are talking about the SD and how cool it is, and how you want to go over there, go ahead but i see no point. What it's 8 ft. taller, 6 or 7 ft. higher drop, 3 mph faster, and 2000 plus ft longer. But still MF has the 3 over banked turns, 80 degree descend. But I really don't care about some rollercoaster on the other side of the world (I live in Florida) because I know that ill never go to Japan for one rollercoaster. You see im 15 and Ive been to Cedar Point ever year since 1994, and i plan to keep going! AND HOW DO WE KNOW THESE FACTS ARE CORRECT? WE'LL NEVER KNOW UNTIL IT OPENS!!
The more great coasters in the world, the better.
hey, I am not a SD ripper. I think it is a great coaster. read my above posts. I just pointed out differences between it and MF. Not meaning to rip on it.
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Closing Time: 5:30
CP Arrival Time: 5:50
Whose Line is it Anyway?
Oh I know, you were very fair. There are some others that are way too biased for a coaster not built yet.
Ok for one thing no one is saying anything about magnum being bad because it is the ORIGINAL. Everything anymore is copied on it's layout. Thats what I do not like. No one here is putting down the SD.... I myself did NOT say that SD would suck. I just dislike the fact that (and I WILL reiterate) they used the magnums layout! Yes, I am glad that Japan is getting into the coaster business now, but how can I get there to ride their rides? For all we know now, SD could be nothing but about speed and no thrill. CP has it all for me. Excitement, speed, thrills... you just can't beat it! Yes, I am partial to CP but i have beent to countless other amusement parks (even ones closer to me) but none can be as great and wonderous as Cedar Point. The rollercoasters doesn't make it the best by themselves (even though the skyline is overwhelmed by them). It's the atmosphere I guess you could say... But I digress, and will leave you with this. I can assure all of you adament people who take offense with us CP lovers that we are not saying that we think CP is the best place forever and will always have the best coasters... most likely it will someday lose the bragging rights... We are just proud of what we have here! We will stick up for CP at all costs I guess you could say, and are somewhat paranoid about anyone beating CP's records. :)
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Shawn Bailes
Webmaster of Coasters R Us
http://coastersrus.home-page.org
If your so proud of what you have, why down another coaster far, far away? Magnum has been copied many times, why does *this* one bother you? You know why? Cause it's taller than MF that's why. But your right, MF and CP's coasters are something to be proud of, but you sound like they just belong to you. CP's coasters and atmosphere belong to anyone who can folk over the $$$.
Where can I find the layout of this coaster? Everyone seems to be able to compare the layout to Mgnum, but I cannot seem to find it anywhere on the web.
Besides, isn't Magnum just an out & back? Isn't that just a copy of hundreds of coasters before it? I know it is the original hyper, and I give it a thumbs up, but it is not the first coaster ever to have that kind of layout. Now SD is simply the next level of out & back, right?
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Gotta ride 'em all!
SOGGY-go to (www.thrillride.com). When the screen comes up scroll down to the words "HANG ON", click on that then the next page will come up. On the left side of the page you will see all these choices of places to go to on the site. Scroll down until you see "2000 PREVIEW", click on that and the next page will come up, then you look for "STEEL DRAGON 2000", or to see the specs go to "HOT NEWS" and you will see it.
Mega, PLEASE get this through your head! I am NOT 'downing' Steel Dragon! I NEVER said it sucked! And this coaster does NOT bother me! I could care less!! I just do not have the excitement for it.. Why? Because I can't ride it! Thats why! It's halfway across the earth from me! I'm not going to spend 300 dollars for a trip to Japan and ride that single rollercoaster. That's just plain stupid for me to even conceive that! That is why I favor Cedar Point. It's a lot closer. One single big rollercoaster doesn't make another country of major intrest on my 'must go to' list. I'm sorry for even posting my comments if you get so offensive about them. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I for one am favoring Cedar Point for its attractions over Japan.. Not putting down Japan and their single big coaster. Please understand me and don't get so p.o'd
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Shawn Bailes
Webmaster of Coasters R Us
http://coastersrus.home-page.org
Thanks, Magnum.
Good luck finding air fare for $300 to Japan!! Try $800 and up. Maybe on priceline, but regular fares are up there!
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Gotta ride 'em all!
From what I've heard about the Steel Dragon was that it was supposed to be more like 350+ft tall but the local government wouldn't allow it.
If thats the case than hopefully a park in the good old USA can build it from those original planes.Lets just keep our fingers crossed.:)
Cleveland to Tokyo in August: $2750.90
Season Pass to Six Flags Park: $80.00
Two tickets to a Giants game: $44.00
Reading stupid comments on CoasterBuzz: Priceless
LOL! Good one Revolutionary :)
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Shawn Bailes
Webmaster of Coasters R Us
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Good thing for us West Coast folks, Delta Air lines was "only" $1050 in August from LAX to Tokyo. Mid-week, with a weekend stay, restrictions apply, call your local travel agent NOW!!
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Gotta ride 'em all!
WOO HOO! Let me reserve my ticket! Yeah right! I think any park from here on out that decides to build a 300 plus rollercoaster will get bashed, so it's not just SD. Just wait...
Well I'll put in my vote for Steel Dragon 2000! First of all, a 307ft drop at 68 degrees is stunning, I don't care what anyone says. No one knows the banking on those turns yet, but they looks sensational, and the possible airtime on those bunny hops at that speed looks to make
history. SD looks to tell a great coaster story from beginning to end. I also like the way the bunny hops look like riding on the back of a giant dragon. Looks like another winner from Morgan, and guess what? I have a friend who's family lives near the park, so looks like I will be calling her up! MF may be great, but that doesn't stop another coaster from being better. BTW, I still think SFNE Superman is the US current steel champion! It is a masterpiece, just the right amount of airtime, laterals and overbanked turns! IMO. :)
I only wish i spoke for everyone when i say Steel Dragon will be the greatest coaster on the planet. If you put all the coasters in the world on one grass plain, you would see MF and SD standing out. But tell me you wouldnt IMMEDIATELY head for SD? I live in pittsburgh and im a avid CP fan, but i know a fantastic experience when i see one. EVERYTHING about SD will blow everything else away. The first drop will be absolutely stunning, but will almost be overshadowed by the second! Imagine the airtime! Everytime i look at the layout i just WISH it was built closer. But, for now, ill get my high-speed thrills at parks i can get to.
I am leaving many things unsaid here, but ill stop at that.
The only thing I can think of about this ride is that it's Morgan, and that would worry me. Their hypers haven't aged that well. However, they have switched to a wheel-outside configuration a la B&M and Intamin. That means shorter ties between the rails and it's my opinion that is the reason for said manufacturers' "smooth factor."
Now that we've past the 300-foot barrier (twice), I'd really like to see more like this in our backyard!
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Jeff
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