Steel Dragon stats revealed for Japanese coaster!

Posted Thursday, May 25, 2000 6:55 PM | Contributed by Draco

I got to take a tour of Morgan Manufacturing last month and my local ACE rep just sent me this email:

This may be of particular interest especially to those who took part in the recent ACE Northern California tour of Morgan Manufacturing back on April 30th. It looks like we were the first to see the new world record holder for height, length and speed.

I admit I had to go to a metric conversion web site but I did the math and here are the results:

Maximum height: 318.24'
Vertical drop: 307.46'
Maximum speed: 95mph
Track Length: 8151.69'
Angle of descent: 68 degrees
Total investment: 5.5 billion-yen
Hourly capacity: 1,476 pph
Opening date: August 1, 2000

WOW!!!

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Attachment: Forwarded Message

Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 16:06:13 -0700
Subject: Nagashima Spaland Year 2000 Coaster, Steel Dragon 2000

The following statistics are from the Nagashima Spaland official press release on May 25. We expect to have permission from our client to post site photos on our website by next Friday, June 5th. Thank you!

Steel Dragon 2000

Maximum height: 97m
Vertical drop: 93,5m
Maximum speed: 153/km/h
Track length: 2,479m
Angle of descent: 68 degrees
Total investment: 5.5 billion-yen
Hourly capacity: 1,476 pph
Opening date: August 1, 2000

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Friday, May 26, 2000 10:11 AM
Hagnum: The Dragon is bigger. Get over it.

I personally wish the thing was in my back yard. The thing is more of a Magnum-ish ride than MF. I'd love to have it here. The turn around looks incredibly intense!

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Jeff
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Friday, May 26, 2000 11:05 AM
Nagashima Spaland also features the White Canyon woodie, the largest Cyclone clone built to date.
The thing looks huge!

I agree Jeff, those turns look totally wicked! According to Steve Okamoto(designer of the ride), should still be flying along at 70mph when it hits those spirals. I also like how described the ride, as a trilogy. The first part features three huge moster drops, 1 giga and two hyper drops. Then it goes into the 2 g-packed "tilted loops" as they call them. And for a finale, 7, count em, 7 airtime filled speed bumps on the way back to the station. Although MF looks like an awesome ride, Steel Dragon 2000 combines all the best elements of previous hypers into one huge gigantic moster coaster! I'll put one of these on my wish list for SFMW!
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Friday, May 26, 2000 11:49 AM
WOW! Please clone this thing for the US right now! C'mon Knott's Berry Farm, get Steve on the phone!
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Friday, May 26, 2000 12:25 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!! LIMs for the third hill?
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Friday, May 26, 2000 1:17 PM
WASTE OF 50 MILLION DOLLARS
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Friday, May 26, 2000 2:06 PM
I am wondering this.

CP can still say they have the tallest coaster in the USA.
I never EVER thought that this would happen so quick.....
I mean I thought it would take years to break that record. But remember it is barly taller than MF.
MF may still be better though....


-DarkT - is the earth getting darker? *** This post was edited by XT-DarkT on 5/26/2000. ***
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Friday, May 26, 2000 2:24 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this new coaster hasn't even started the construction phase. All the CPers out there can probably rest assured that MF will have at least a full year of glory.
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Friday, May 26, 2000 6:35 PM
Sure... Kennywood has room for a ride that big. Please.

Fart in an elevator... Those who know don't talk, those who don't talk know the most.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Friday, May 26, 2000 7:05 PM
"sobbing" ..........
WHY?!?!?!?!?!?
I will stop this! its not fair even though i think the coaster is going to be nothing compared to MF i still am mad! oh well
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Friday, May 26, 2000 7:43 PM
What's to be mad about? So there's a bigger coaster? So what? Will you stop living because of this?

Coaster riding is not a religion folks, it's a leisure time activity.

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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Friday, May 26, 2000 8:48 PM
Anyone who says that the drop is merely a functional part of the coaster hasn't been on MF! I thought the first drop was the greatest part of MF, It feels like the coaster's falling straight into the ground!!!!
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Friday, May 26, 2000 10:49 PM
Haha, it's just so funny the way these people act. Someone builds a bigger coaster and they start crying. Immediately we here, "it's gonna be nothing compared to MF" and "MF may still be better though". These are the people who if this same coaster was built at CP would be bragging about it. Get over it people, you knew it would happen. Yet then we get, CP will still have the tallest coaster in the US. Oh great, more subdivisions.

BTW, Goliath is the tallest coaster south of the Mason-Dixon Line. Oh, and another thing it does fall straight into the ground.
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Saturday, May 27, 2000 6:11 AM
Where do you get your info, APC11?
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Saturday, May 27, 2000 7:51 AM
hehe.. one thing I notice is that when the magnum was built, it was substantially taller than any other previous rollercoaster at that time. Then other coasters appeared just a little bit taller and faster... Then CP just came out with a coaster again substantially taller and faster than the other.. now there's that one in japan only like what? 8 feet taller? sheesh.. here we go again....
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Saturday, May 27, 2000 8:01 AM
oh and one more thing. Ever notice how some rollercoasters today resemble the Magnum? For instance, Steel Force (i think that is what it's called) is almost a carbon copy of the Magnum. Ron Toomer did such a great job in the magnum's layout, everyone wants to replicate the shear excitement built in.. but the thing is, NO ONE can replicate it.. not even japan! (if it actually is built on magnum's specs.... that's what i've heard) Every coaster is unique. Whether it's a 310 foot lift and an 80 degree drop VS. a 205 foot lift and a 60 degree drop. They should have their own, if you will, song to it. Their design shouldn't whistle other coaster's songs, because that is unique to them. It makes them what they are!!!
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Saturday, May 27, 2000 8:51 AM
Not even in Japan? So I assume you ridden their coasters right? My goodness, can this sound anymore like sour grapes? Aren't these the same people who get upset over people bashing MF. If you don't think Steel Dragon 2000 will be that good, why are you guys discussing it? Why not wish them well, and go enjoy MF? If Steel Dragon were at CP, we would never hear the end of it.
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Saturday, May 27, 2000 9:44 AM
I am very happy that a park in Japan is going to break some records. It is just like their coaster that was named from a mountain(Mt Fujihama or something) that was also the the biggest, tallest, fastest in the world. Did anyone care then? No. Most people did not even know Japan had rollercoasters much less a record breaker. Here is my point. Nagashima Spaland can put in this mammoth coaster and impress the world. But in no shape or form will Japan ever beat America when it comes to passion for rollercoasters. C'mon Japan has a measely 12 parks country wide while the US has over 55 and counting. Does Nagashimi Spaland belong in the class of the world's best park Cedar point? Hell no! Overall people, nobody cared when Japan had a record breaker then, and nobody will care now. If 8 ft 3 mph, and little longer track makes you want to travel to Japan, see ya. I will stick with the park that has a proven track record, Cedar point.
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Saturday, May 27, 2000 9:52 AM
man I leave the forum for a few days and miss it all. I think both coasters will have draws to them. MF has advantages that it has an 80 degree drop. (the best I have been on) MF had 3 overbanked turns. MF has an elevator lift. MF has a totally different layout (turn right after descent). That is a whole different aspect to MF which I LOVE. SD has what looks to be and awesome turnaround. There could be alot of headchoppers there, alot of good G's. SD has more airtime. (the trip back) I have to say that it seems pretty stupid to me only to have a 68 degree descent on a coaster that big. That will take away from the drop but not the speed. It may turn into preference what people like more. These 2 coasters offer totally different rides. I like how CP decided to try something different (a non magnum layout), and the crowds loved it. Where as Japan decided to go with what crowds already love, (magnumish). I hate the idea that there is 2 chains on SD to get you up there. After being on MF the elevator is the way to go. So many people love that aspect (that I talked to). I think both will represent themselves well (MF alreay has) and it will be a matter of preference as to which is better. Although for most in the USA it will only be MF.

Millennium Force rides: 9
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Closing Time: 5:30
CP Arrival Time: 5:50

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Saturday, May 27, 2000 10:10 AM
and when I say that will take away from the drop I am comparing it to MF's drop. I know magnum's drop is about the same and it is great.

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Closing Time: 5:30
CP Arrival Time: 5:50

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Saturday, May 27, 2000 10:36 AM
A 300 plus foot Magnum? How in the world can that be beat? LOL! As far as traveling to Japan, most people can't, that's why it's so easy to sit at a computer and judge it.
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