S:ROS MAXIMUM height?!?
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What the heck? I was looking forward to getting to ride Superman Ride of Steel this summer, and to my dismay, found out that the ride has a MAXIMUM height of 78 inches. This concerns me for a number of reasons. 1. My brother cannot ride no matter what (he is 83 inches) 2. If I grow one more inch I can't ride (although I haven't grow in 4 years) 3. Does Millenium force have this restriction too? If so, my brother can never ride THAT either. 4. If Knott's builds an intamin hyper that has the same restrictions, and my brother can't ride, and it's questionable for ME, I will be severely angered. Anyway, that's enough.
*** This post was edited by saviourmachine on 2/22/2001. ***
MF does not have a height restriction to my knowledge. I think that total bulls*** that a sit down coaster, let alone one without OTSR has a height restriction.. Are they worried about people loosing their heads? There should be no question of leg length either, because I am 77" and I fit in MF just dandy. Also, all people have different leg, arm, hand, head, body dimensions regardless of height. So if they are trying to use an excuse "since you are taller, your arms are longer so you cant ride" then they are just Morons with no background in human anatomy.
What MF does have is a seat by front of the entrance to the queue, so if you think you will have trouble fitting in you can see if you will fit. My only guess to why they have a height maximum is because of the seats, which is a problem solved by doing what CP does as described above.
Finally, people aren't getting shorter with time. Heck, in 10 years 6'6" will the normal height of some men. I doubt Intamin, a company that claims they are ahead of the curve would design a ride which eventualy a good portion of the adult public won't be able to ride.
What MF does have is a seat by front of the entrance to the queue, so if you think you will have trouble fitting in you can see if you will fit. My only guess to why they have a height maximum is because of the seats, which is a problem solved by doing what CP does as described above.
Finally, people aren't getting shorter with time. Heck, in 10 years 6'6" will the normal height of some men. I doubt Intamin, a company that claims they are ahead of the curve would design a ride which eventualy a good portion of the adult public won't be able to ride.
6'6" is not going to be an average height in a hundred years, let alone ten years.
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In 10 yrs, 6'6" will not be the norm for adult males. Currently, the "average" height of a adult male is 5'09". Just a little FYI and that average hasn't grown significantly in the past 30 years (maybe an inch or 2 tops).
Evolution won't make the average adult male 6'6" within the next 200 years unless they're living on 3-mile island, or in Springfield where the Homer Simpson lives.
I just had to make that statement...
Anyway, the height restriction is more or less for safety reasons as a standard, but I am pretty sure there isn't a guy at the beginning of the queue with a max height stick measuring all these tall people. It's closer to a warning than a restriction.
Just like the minimum height. If you're an inch too short or so, you're still perfectly safe on the coaster if you're 49", but minimum height is 52". They just take it as a precautionary measure, because maybe in the past there have been incidents where kids too little can easily slip out of the horse collars.
Weight, that's a different issue altogether...
Some guy at SFDL fell out of Superman: Ride of Steel during its first month on the last bunny hops. It was later determined that his weight played a significant factor, and he shouldn't have been on the coaster since the lap bar didn't fit snug enough. This is why most coasters have seat-belts now... so if the belt don't fit, you better slim up!
Evolution won't make the average adult male 6'6" within the next 200 years unless they're living on 3-mile island, or in Springfield where the Homer Simpson lives.
I just had to make that statement...
Anyway, the height restriction is more or less for safety reasons as a standard, but I am pretty sure there isn't a guy at the beginning of the queue with a max height stick measuring all these tall people. It's closer to a warning than a restriction.
Just like the minimum height. If you're an inch too short or so, you're still perfectly safe on the coaster if you're 49", but minimum height is 52". They just take it as a precautionary measure, because maybe in the past there have been incidents where kids too little can easily slip out of the horse collars.
Weight, that's a different issue altogether...
Some guy at SFDL fell out of Superman: Ride of Steel during its first month on the last bunny hops. It was later determined that his weight played a significant factor, and he shouldn't have been on the coaster since the lap bar didn't fit snug enough. This is why most coasters have seat-belts now... so if the belt don't fit, you better slim up!
He actually fell out!!!?? What happened to him? Good thing he didn't fall out during the big drops!
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I'd Rather Be Riding Rollercoasters
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It was only like 20' off the ground. He suffered nothing more than a broken arm at most. I think he filed a lawsuit later against the park for negligence, but it was deemed his weight was the major contributing factor in the incident. After they re-opened the ride, they installed seat-belts.
That'll teach you to start drinking Carnation's Slim Fast and not McDonald's Milkshakes if ya wanna ride the ride. :)
That'll teach you to start drinking Carnation's Slim Fast and not McDonald's Milkshakes if ya wanna ride the ride. :)
The reason they have a height limit is because there's a place in one of the helices where the track comes a little too close when passing over another piece of track. I think this flaw only occurs in the SFA and SFDL versions.
Hey boots,
did they intend for this to happen, or is it something that they will fix in their later designs? I really hope so, because I would love an Intamin hyper at Knott's(which is the rumor I hear most), but if it had a Max height, I would be thoroughly disappointed.
did they intend for this to happen, or is it something that they will fix in their later designs? I really hope so, because I would love an Intamin hyper at Knott's(which is the rumor I hear most), but if it had a Max height, I would be thoroughly disappointed.
Hey dawg byte where did you come up with the info on only a broken arm at most the guy ruptured his abdominal wall and has to keep a girdle on all the time for he rest of his life, thats no broken arm.
As far as height goes its not your head but your knees that are the problem they stick up high and have a harder time closing the lap bar.
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As far as height goes its not your head but your knees that are the problem they stick up high and have a harder time closing the lap bar.
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Army rangers lead the way
Timbobarry, to answer your question, Vekoma SLC's have a max height too. At least Serial thriller at sfaw. It made me so mad that my brother had to sit and wait while we went on it. That's the only other one that has a max height that I know of, but I think the dueling dragons at IOA has one too. :(
*** This post was edited by saviourmachine on 2/22/2001. ***
Well, I'm 73 inches,(6'3), and I fit easily into MF back in August. I had my hands up the whole ride, even through the tunnels, and at no time did I think I was even close to hitting anything. That's really bad to hear about S:ROS. Although I can ride it, it means that taller people won't get to enjoy it. Intamin should've made it so that anyone no matter how tall they are could ride it.(Excluding people over 10 ft. of course;) )
-Raven_Rider
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It was my understanding that S:ROS @ SFA has a maximum height requirement, not because of train constraints, but because of the clearance exiting the first helix. I know that the support there looks *awfully* close. MF, to my knowledge has no such 'close encounter' so it doesn't have the 'tall sticks'.
jeremy
jeremy
Yea, you guys pretty much nailed it on teh head, about the support/1st helix...
On S:ROS@SFDL...... I got hit in the hand at full speed by a support in '99....
...they ended up putting a height restriction on the SFA version...
...is it because of me? Who knows.... but dont blame me for it cuz I was in a LOT of pain :/ and that part was designed very poorly....
...oh, and BTW, I am not even CLOSE to the maximum height so I really don't know whats up with that...
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On S:ROS@SFDL...... I got hit in the hand at full speed by a support in '99....
...they ended up putting a height restriction on the SFA version...
...is it because of me? Who knows.... but dont blame me for it cuz I was in a LOT of pain :/ and that part was designed very poorly....
...oh, and BTW, I am not even CLOSE to the maximum height so I really don't know whats up with that...
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http://www.sfdl.net *** This post was edited by SFDL_Dude on 2/22/2001. ***
I've hit my hand on an MF support...
Didn't hurt too badly, I was just shocked that it actually happened. I didn't think it could come anywhere near my hand.
"Please keep your hands, arms, and legs down and inside the train at all times..."
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Didn't hurt too badly, I was just shocked that it actually happened. I didn't think it could come anywhere near my hand.
"Please keep your hands, arms, and legs down and inside the train at all times..."
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Millennium is spelled with two N's ;)
Yikes, I misconstrued even my own words, I deserved that thrashing. The only way the average height would ever get up to 6' 6" is if all the short people died or all the young people turned into 8' monsters.
What I was trying to say is there are going to some more people that are going to be over 6'6" and may not be able to ride. There is evidence that people are getting taller. I quickly searched the Library of Congress next door to me and found some tables. The Average height of men in 1900 was 170 cm, and the current average is 176 cm. This means that younger people are the reason for this small increase and they will be taller than the current average.
This increase was much smaller than I thought. I looked at the NBA and see 30 years ago I would be a Center/Forward, where as now I would be only Point Guard! Also most of my friends are right around this magic number of 78". You also look at Arrow Mine Trains made 30 years ago, and even when I was still only 6' there was hardly any legroom. Anyway I learned something today that I've been wanting to know for quite a while :)
Putting Evolution and Natural Selection aside, there are tall people like myself, saviourmachine, and his brother who want to ride coasters!!!
Like I said having a height limit set in stone makes no sense because of peoples different body dimensions. I hear on the Vekoma SLC's, what matters if your feet touch the floor, not height. SFDL_Dude may have long arms and that may be a reason why he hit a support.
AS for the guy falling out that was a weight issue, which has NOTHING to do with height. Weight is something most people can control and people should not be punished for their height.
Also, I think I could hit my hand on a MF support. There is this one on the first Overbank that I think I could reach, and I've heard people say they have.
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What I was trying to say is there are going to some more people that are going to be over 6'6" and may not be able to ride. There is evidence that people are getting taller. I quickly searched the Library of Congress next door to me and found some tables. The Average height of men in 1900 was 170 cm, and the current average is 176 cm. This means that younger people are the reason for this small increase and they will be taller than the current average.
This increase was much smaller than I thought. I looked at the NBA and see 30 years ago I would be a Center/Forward, where as now I would be only Point Guard! Also most of my friends are right around this magic number of 78". You also look at Arrow Mine Trains made 30 years ago, and even when I was still only 6' there was hardly any legroom. Anyway I learned something today that I've been wanting to know for quite a while :)
Putting Evolution and Natural Selection aside, there are tall people like myself, saviourmachine, and his brother who want to ride coasters!!!
Like I said having a height limit set in stone makes no sense because of peoples different body dimensions. I hear on the Vekoma SLC's, what matters if your feet touch the floor, not height. SFDL_Dude may have long arms and that may be a reason why he hit a support.
AS for the guy falling out that was a weight issue, which has NOTHING to do with height. Weight is something most people can control and people should not be punished for their height.
Also, I think I could hit my hand on a MF support. There is this one on the first Overbank that I think I could reach, and I've heard people say they have.
It just sounds like Intamin椀猀 愀琀 昀愀甀氀琀 栀攀爀攀 昀漀爀 猀漀洀攀 瀀漀漀爀 搀攀猀椀最渀⸀ 䰀椀欀攀 䰀攀最攀渀搀愀爀礀 猀愀椀搀 椀昀 礀漀甀 㰀椀㸀 欀攀攀瀀 愀氀氀 愀爀洀猀 愀渀搀 栀愀渀搀猀 椀渀猀椀搀攀 琀栀攀 挀愀爀 愀琀 愀氀氀 琀椀洀攀猀 㰀⼀椀㸀 礀漀甀 猀栀漀甀氀搀 戀攀 猀愀昀攀Ⰰ 爀攀最愀爀搀氀攀猀猀 漀昀 栀攀椀最栀琀⸀ 㰀椀洀最 猀爀挀㴀∀⼀昀漀爀甀洀猀⼀椀洀愀最攀猀⼀猀洀椀氀攀⸀最椀昀∀ 戀漀爀搀攀爀㴀∀ ∀㸀
What part of the Force did you hit your hand?
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Joe E. said where I hit my hand -- in the first overbank. I've also heard of more people hitting their hand there too.
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Millennium is spelled with two N's ;)
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Millennium is spelled with two N's ;)
Hey, going back to the part of the helix...do people know if Intamin plans to fix this problem on their future coasters? Will they make the clearing bigger?
If I recall correctly, I believe I read over on GTTP that if you are 6'4" and you stretch, that on the Millennium Force, you can touch the tunnel. I can't confirm this because I am only 5'4" (I'm 14 yrs. old, not very short).
Joe E. said: "Also, all people have different leg, arm, hand, head, body dimensions regardless of height"
I think it was in science class, or somewhere in school I read that your arm span is your height, so if you hold your arms out horizontal to the ground, and measure from finger tip to finger tip, then that should be your height. I just tried it and my armspan was off from my height by 2 inches.
So as a conclusion from all of this useless information, your height may in fact and most likley does effect your arm length. Just thought I'd let you know.
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