Son of Beast does not get the respect it derserves

Okay, taken in a different context, it is possible that you're not being a punk. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

You guys are having problems with this at that height/weight? I'm 6' and 250 lbs, and I have no problems. Mayhaps my weight is just spread out more?

Anyhow, I like SoB, but again, I don't think it deserves respect. In re-ranking coasters lately (a long and painful task, and I only have 123 to count), SoB ranks pretty low, even if I do like it, I'd still rather ride a lot of other coasters first.

I'm still wondering what being able to ride CP coasters has to do with SOB sucking.

He may be able to ride it, but he can't spell it correctly! :) (and you're not alone, Gonch)

Alright, the 'fat' comment got me: I was being nice in my first two chimes, but Mr. Happy has left the building (and I really don't care if you explained yourself or not).

SOB is horrible, always has, always will. Problems existed in its conception with the delayed start date (2nd hill problems) and continued 4 years later with PKI making 'little' changes to the trains only to think they were making a poor ride better (See: Delusion). Positives: Raw speed, great 1st Helix....after that it is mundane, at best, and meanders about the course without purpose. Even if they purchased Gerstauler or Millenium Flyers, it wouldn't make a darn bit of difference.

If I have to miss riding it this year because I waited 2 hours for ISJ, then have fun with a person less in que. Either way, Paul suggested to drive 3 hours west to HW, heck you don't even have to go that far....Thunder Road and the Sisters blow SOB away in creativity, airtime and ride-ability. I'm even going to go as far as saying that the Eagle at LeSourdsville is a better coaster, hell it must be, I voted it higher on Mitch's poll every year since 2001 (and others did, too).

The argument is SOB, not obesity or MF. Everyear 2 out of 3 dentists surveyed... give SOB the thumbs down...and for reasons for enjoying it (See: Dr. Ruth & Oedipus Complex).

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Woody said:
...Mr. Happy has left the building...

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That sounds like a euphemism for whipping it out. ;)

Nevermind. Continue.

Particularly coming from someone named "Woody." :)

(No offense, Woody...)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

oh brother, here we go....I suppose our next discussion will be over the favorite cartoon character, which happens to be a childhood euphemsim or cruel kid name given to me at the bus stop. Let's just say it was shortened to the latter half of the cartoon name.

"Mr. Pitts, that's a rather unfortunate name." ~Dead Poet's Society.

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Woody said:

I'm even going to go as far as saying that the Eagle at LeSourdsville is a better coaster,

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I don't think you're going too far with that statement. It is definately a better coaster than SOB. I'll go as far as saying the Eagle is the best woodie in the entire state of Ohio!

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Blaster_1578 said:
Yah, we may take the bait, but there have been other topics like this for other coasters, never reaching five pages. I think it demonstrates how much enthusiasts truly dislike the coaster.

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True enough, but it also shows how PKI was willing to *take a flyer*, so to speak, on one of the most courageous coaster projects in history. And I don't think I'm exaggerating one bit...

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Incidentalist said:

I'll go as far as saying the Eagle is the best woodie in the entire state of Ohio!

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I'll join you on that statement.

Hey DOG! I will agree with you and Incindentalist that the Eagle is a good, solid woodie...but I'll take The Villian (after offseason retracking) over any woodie in Ohio. The Beast is still a close second and Eagle third. Chaindog and I are lucky enough to remember the Beast without heavy braking. Dare I say, WOW!

The Eagle just doesn't have that, "This train is going to come off the tracks!" feel that the other two have.

You must not have ridden the Screechin' Eagle back in, say, 1992 or so, before the Coney Island Group bought the park and completely re-tracked the ride; before CCI did any work on it; waaaay back when the train was 3 black all-NAD cars with a hand-painted eagle on the front of the lead car. Back then, the rearmost rail of the lap bar was not padded, and after the ACE Preservation Con event there, I had bruises on my thighs for a week.

You want a "This train is going to come off the tracks!" feel? The Screechin' Eagle had exactly that, particularly on the drop into the left-hand dogleg that comes off the turnaround. Yikes!! :)

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Eagle rulz! No doubt in my mind, it's far and away the best woodie I've ridden in Ohio....Papa has THE helix, but Eagle has THE airtime...:)

And I had my rides the day Eagle came BACK from the grave, so not ALL of the fun was lost, LOL....:) Those inspectors probably wondered why some people just wouldn't leave the station, hehe...Chuck, if you're out there reading this, THANKS....:)

Kent B., you rescued one, is it too much to ask that you save THIS coaster too? Or maybe even the park?

bill, never knows when to say when...;)

(user sings...)

Don't Stop Thinkin' about LeSourdsville...

--Dave Althoff, Jr.