So, B&M finally done it... 4D Style.

Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:44 PM

Being built at Gardaland, called X-Raptor.

http://sondaggi.gardaland.it/sondaggioXRAPTOR15-24.php

You have to "vote" to see the announcement.

Some stats:

- Underground Station
- 800m long (2,624ft)
- 30m tall (98ft)
- 90° Turn
- Interaction with surrounding objects
- Will go over water with effects
- 2 zero gravity elements

Very interesting! I hope B&M can pull it off... Not confirmed yet if seats are spinning or stationary.

Last edited by SteveWoA, Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:53 PM
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Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:53 PM

I have no idea how, or for what, I voted. But it does look quite cool.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:06 PM

I hope that the seats spin. If B&M can do a controlled spin like X, I think we could definitely see more of these. I just don't see the point in wing seating for no other purpose (Like Furious Bacco), because that really doesn't do much of anything that a floorless can't do.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:11 PM

The seats will not spin or rotate on this ride.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:13 PM

Boo! I really don't understand what that does for the coaster. Granted, I'm not complaining about this particular one, I haven't rode it, but I do wish they'd come up with something that had spinning seats.

Edit: I'd read about this on Screamscape, where it also said the train wouldn't spin when they first got the rumor. I guess I just wish more 4D coasters would catch on.

Last edited by Tekwardo, Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:16 PM
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Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:16 PM

SteveWoA said:
- 90° Turn

Glad to see B&M really pushing the envelope. ;)

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:48 PM

Clint - the seats won't rotate on this ride. Doesn't mean future versions will feature static seats.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:25 PM

Poor website. Its poll is being destroyed by american enthusiasts who are messing up with the poll results b/c we just want to see the ride concept and will not spend the time to turn the poll into english :)

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:34 PM

Or simply because we can. :)

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:36 PM

From what Babel Fish could translate, I think the first question was asking if you know what a roller coaster is. If you click "no" it goes right to the concept art. If you click "si" it gives you a bunch of options, like "an airplane," "an attraction that through mechanical effects makes the rollover feeling," and something about topological features of Russian mountains, which is what I selected.

The text above the concept art said that "roller coaster" is the English translation for "switchback/Russian mountains," but I'm wondering if maybe they're saying it's the English equivalent of those terms. I believe some European languages use the term "Russian mountains" for these rides, which would explain why an Italian page was asking if the user knew what a "roller coaster" was.

The buttons underneath were asking how apt the name X-Raptor is for this ride, then the next question asked if just Raptor would be better. After that it thanked me for my time and provided a link to a coupon for 6 Euros off admission. :)

Last edited by birdhombre, Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:36 PM
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Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:40 PM

So basically this is just B&M's take on Intamin's Furius Baco.

http://rcdb.com/3430.htm

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:55 PM

My one cosi cosi semester of Italian from college sort of came in handy. :)

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:56 PM

I'm leaning towards believing (stop! wait! nooo!) screamscape on this one. I quote:

Screamscape said:

I’ve heard that [B&M] may very well want to produce their own version of the 4D concept, complete with spinning seats, but wanted to build a non-spinning prototype version of the train first. The goal here is to not only perfect a new train/track pairing design, but to also gather all the practical G-force and Accelerometer data [possible] from this new train deisgn before trying to implement...spinning seats.

[/possible][/B&M]

...which, having seen B&M's hesitancy over the years to embrace anything new until they know that they can deliver an industry-leading product, sounds pretty believable.

I'm not personally sold on the wingwalker seating configuration sans-rotation as a 'feature' considering the limitations it puts on a ride's possible element selection, but I'm quite looking forward to seeing the first truly envelope-pushing concept from B&M in quite some time come to fruition. Will definitely be following this one.

Last edited by BBSpeed26, Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:03 PM
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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:15 PM

Where exactly does it say it's going to be an B&M? Could it just be another Intamin with misleading concept art?

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:21 PM

The park has stated to various coaster groups they've hosted at the park recently that it would be a B&M project, they just didn't say what kind of coaster it was.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:35 PM

Fun said:
Where exactly does it say it's going to be an B&M? Could it just be another Intamin with misleading concept art?

It's B&M.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:24 PM

Word is that the outer seats on Furious Baco rattle you pretty good as do the ones on X2. Wonder if B&M will have solved this issue in any way

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:51 PM

In Spanish, I believe the phrase for a roller coaster is "Montana Rusa."

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:59 PM

Of course Furious Baco is the coaster that caused that girl to fall out of her top. I wouldn't mind a bit more of that.

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:14 PM

The outer seats on their dive machines don't bounce around, and they're a good ways out from the track. Different configuration to be sure, but B&M are the kings of solid.

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