Six Flags Ride Ops

Friday, June 1, 2001 7:45 AM
I was riding Titan last night and it was close to closing and not many people where left to ride and there were many open seats on a Train. I was on the platform and had just gotten off and was getting back in to fill one of the seats and the Ride Op called Security on me and quite a few other people doing this. This train ended up leaving the station half full. I am just wondering if anyone sees anything wrong with doing this?
Also why does Six Flags not see the need to run a full train. This train was half empty.
It seems like the Ride Op was just in a mood to make as many people mad as she could. I have been there most of the week at closing and no other ride op has stopped anyone from doing this so close to closing.
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Friday, June 1, 2001 7:51 AM
It is Six Flags, Cedar Fair and Paramount's policy: No re-rides, period. I had the EXACT same experience on Goliath on May 25th. The last train was less than half full and lots of other people wanting to "just go again. The answer was "no," deal with it. If you have ever received a re-ride at a big corperate park, consider yourself lucky.

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Friday, June 1, 2001 8:29 AM
We cheated the system at the X-F shoot and got rerides on Batman and Villain. I think because we asked very nicely and we were the only two people in the station. I thought SF parks let you reride?

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Friday, June 1, 2001 8:41 AM

Is this a new policy ? I have had them tell me no re-rides this year, even if your row has no one waiting. However in the past, the ride ops on Shockwave @ SFGAm allowed us to re-ride. In fact, they even announced it in the station - "If no one is waiting in your row, you can ride again". This was during the last hour to half hour of park operation.

I don't think it's unfair if no one is waiting in your row. Trying to grab an empty seat from the exit line after riding, when the station is otherwise full, is another story. I can understand them not allowing re-rides then.

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Friday, June 1, 2001 8:45 AM
SF Great Adventure allows rerides. When the coasters are walkons, sometimes the rideops will encourage it and one time, an op encouraged people to take a 10 ride marathon. I'm surprised that the Texas ops did not ask people to leave before crying to security. At least here, we have friendly SF operators.
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Friday, June 1, 2001 8:50 AM
The way we do it is if nobody is waiting for your row, you may ride again. BUT... if somebody IS waiting in line for your row, you have to exit and come back through the entrance. If we let people switch rows, it gets to be too much, and it takes a while because they walk and ask people to move over a seat, and then somebody who claims they were in line gets angry, and they complain... It kind of "snow balls." One more reason... A VERY common one. We open the gates, and then many people go and put their stuff (prizes, hats, glasses, cameras...) in the box, then they come back, and somebody switched rows and is in their seat when they come back. THEN, we have to explain to them the situation and manually unlock the row, then get them back in, then chech the restraints... We don't do that because we want to, or to make guests angry, there is a reason for it. *** This post was edited by Long Live The SKY WHIRL on 6/1/2001. ***
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Friday, June 1, 2001 9:00 AM
You've got to keep in mind that the parks use turnstile statistics to justify all rides, even coasters. If you ride 3 times, but only went through the turnstiles once, you were not counted properly. When usage and capacity are key, every rider needs to be counted. Sure it's a pain, but given the choice between walking a few hundred feet, or not having the ride, the answer is clear.
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Friday, June 1, 2001 9:02 AM
Sure, if Six Flags actually used their turnstiles. I don't know how many times I've been through coasters without them. And as for Paramount, I don't think I saw one anywhere at Kings Island.

Most irritating at Six Flags though is when they do use one, but put it at the exit, on the platform. Instant bottle neck every minute with a flood of thirty people. Not very well thought out.

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Friday, June 1, 2001 9:05 AM
You may not see them, but they are present. Most ride built since the mid 80's have optical turnstiles. Some other parks still use the traditional ones. BGT and WDW still use old fashioned turnstiles.
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Friday, June 1, 2001 9:22 AM
I got re-rides on Thunder Run at SFKK the other day, but I think that was just because the ride ops. were too lazy to re-fasten the seatbelts. (Worst crew I have ever encountered, but that is another story…)

I have only once had re-rides at SFStL. On Mr. Freeze, they wont send the train out unless it has a certain number of people in it (10 I think, but don’t quote me, this may be some solution to the problem that had the ride shut down for the last half of last season…) yet the would not allow people to re-ride to meet the quota. The train had to wait in the station until enough people showed up.
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Friday, June 1, 2001 9:25 AM
I'm going to have to disagree with you about rerides at corporate parks because I've gotten plenty of rerides at Six Flags America this year.
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Friday, June 1, 2001 9:56 AM

It seems to me that it would be pretty easy to put some sort of counter on the lapbars/restraints of the ride.

If the lapbar or restraint is all the way down, then it counts as a zero. If the lapbar is up enough to accommodate even the smallest person, then it counts as a one.

This way they would have 100% accuracy as to how many people ride each ride, rerides or not.

Six Flags (or any other company for that matter), if you are reading this, and decide to use this concept - I want free season passes for life ! :)
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Saturday, June 2, 2001 1:28 PM

I have been a ride opp at Lagoon and the Adventuredome in Vegas, at Adventuredome I was told it is actually a safety issue, If you stay on the coaster and ride it lats say, 5 times in a row without leaving that seat you have a better chance of getting sick then you would if you had to get out and walk all the way around to the enterance. They don't want to make their guest sick I guess...
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Saturday, June 2, 2001 1:30 PM
Paramount lets us have re-rides @ PKD.
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Saturday, June 2, 2001 2:40 PM
I think it is pretty dumb that they don't let people take an empty seat. I see the argument that people put stuff in the box, but if you sit in somebody's seat, their friend will tell you to get out. If you ask me, I think it is ignorant to make someone go all the way around and wait in line again and waste an empty seat.
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Saturday, June 2, 2001 3:23 PM
On the Villain if there's no one filling a seat and you ask very nicely they let you re-ride.

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Saturday, June 2, 2001 5:18 PM
Cedar Point made a group of my friends get off Magnum last night during the ERT at Coastermania and told them they had to walk around and get back in line. The thing that ticked them off was there was nobody waiting on the platform to even board the train. I guess no re-rides means no re-rides at CP even during a special event.

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Saturday, June 2, 2001 10:10 PM
SFGA2001:

It is a cost-benefit situation. In order to dispatch a train, all guests must be outside the exit. If everyone waited around for empty seats, the train could never be dispatched. It is better to have a train with an empty seat then spend minutes at a time loading that single seat, especially to please enthusiasts who claim to care about capacity of rides yet selfishly slow the normal operation of the ride down.

Maybe the policy isn't the ignorant one.

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Sunday, June 3, 2001 8:45 AM
EXACTLY!
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Sunday, June 3, 2001 9:11 AM

Gonzo said:
"...I was told it is actually a safety issue, If you stay on the coaster and ride it lats say, 5 times in a row without leaving that seat you have a better chance of getting sick then you would if you had to get out and walk all the way around to the enterance. They don't want to make their guest sick I guess..."


Once again... EXACTLY! On days when it rains, days with low attendance, or near closing time, there are many re-rides. Also, there are many people getting sick. As odd as it sounds, we clean up more vomit on let's say a rainy Wednesday with no line VS. a sunny Saturday with a huge line. So... i guess that is "proof." When we announce people can ride again, now, we suggest if they are beginning to feel ill, that they exit and walk around, but that doesn't mean that they do :(
*** This post was edited by Long Live The SKY WHIRL on 6/3/2001. ***
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