Six Flags over Texas cutting trans fat from its menu.

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:41 PM
It's funny that people think just because you cut out the trans fats it makes it healthy. Just like Organic makes food healthy. Just like the Lays chips that are made with natural sunflower oil! ;)

I eat very little foods with high trans fat content, and organic foods because it is generally better for the environment, but that doesn't mean my food choices are healthy and balanced.

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:56 PM
I know it's not what you mean but don't get me started on the whole ECO terroist either :)

Chuck, who knows one volcanic eruption can out mass a whole century of human air pollution. BUT OF COURSE, WE CAUSED IT! (AL GORE)

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:28 PM
^^^ Not to take away from Chuck's excellent post, but the seatbelt thing was my idea ;) I've always had an issue with that law... one of those, "we know what's best for you, so you better do it" things. Not that I'm against seatbelts but if you want to go without one and risk crashing and getting tossed into the windshield, that's your decision and not one for anyone else to question.

^^ Truth is, you can avoid trans fats and still have a sh*tty diet. Trans fats aren't the only thing to be worried about, and I think by banning them, you're sending the wrong message. I can see people thinking, "since I'm no longer able to eat anything with trans fats, I'm going to get healthier", when they should actually be looking at other things as well, including exercise. I know my diet isn't the best it can be but I do exercise and I know better than to believe that trans fats are the only things I have to worry about.

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:37 PM
I think many of us are like minded on government telling us YOU HAVE to do _______.

I have a few reasons why I won't wear a seat belt. My sister in law is alive today because she didn't have one on during an accident in wet weather (seat belts and air bags are set for protection from certian impacts not ALL impacts). Also I am of a height that where ever the seat belt positioner is place the strap tends to cut right across my neck or throat which I am sorry but that's not comfortable at all and if I can choose not to have it happen well then it's not happening. If I get stopped by an officer I won't argue when he hands me the ticket but he's not going to force me to wear it either.

As for trans fats, I have cut them out of all products that I can make the choice easily. Why, cause trans and saturated fats do contribute to cholesterol levels. I now read labels and decided what I want to eat and what I don't want to. Yes at a restaurant they don't list that stuff on menus so I could eat more than I want to in a day but I am doing what I can to help deal with a health issue without too many medications.

I also believe that the "trans fat" emergency crisis will fade like all other hot button issues. It's not the only thing making our culture fatter and lazier but I am not going to start a socio-politcal rant fest in this thread discussing what is wrong with Americans.

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:42 PM
There are plenty of people who have some kind of issue with pretty much every kind of auto safety system, often with good reason. I've met a few people who claim that NOT wearing a seatbelt saved their lives. I also know of people who have problems with airbags (going as far as buying a much older car without them installed) and ABS. Personally I feel that ABS is the best safety idea to come along since the seatbelt but I can understand why others might not feel that way. Thing is, the goverment DEMANDS those things be installed on new cars (well, not ABS- yet)... which they should, but the driver should be able to defeat those safety devices if they want.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:56 PM

Rob Ascough said:
Truth is, you can avoid trans fats and still have a sh*tty diet. Trans fats aren't the only thing to be worried about, and I think by banning them, you're sending the wrong message. I can see people thinking, "since I'm no longer able to eat anything with trans fats, I'm going to get healthier", when they should actually be looking at other things as well, including exercise.

Yes, yes, yes.

It's the current state of America - treat the symptom, not the cause.

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:59 PM
And convince people that treating the symptom IS treating the cause.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:04 PM
I can tell you that me and my Ex Fiance are alive today because we Didn't have a seatbelt on in the accident we were in. Lets just say the roof was torn off and the post that held the upper part of the belt was ripped off. Our heads would have went with it.

Do I believe you should? Yeah, Do I believe you should have too? No.

Honestly, Im joining weight watchers tonight, My brothers lost over 100 and if I can do even half that, I'll feel blessed. It's not a plan based around AVOIDING ANYTHING but eating a ballanced diet and removing things that make you hungry faster.

Chuck, who fell into the it's too damn easy to go through the drive through syndrome. Fast food is generally bad for you but it's your responsibility to take care of yourself.

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:08 PM
I've been doing the Weight Watchers thing to shed a few extra pounds that have been lying around for a couple years too many. I like the program- you're right, it's not about avoiding what you enjoy, it's about limiting what you eat and through that, finding ways to do more with foods that are better for you. "Gee, if I give up a bowl of potato chips, I can eat a banana after breakfast, an apple after lunch and still have some points left for a little something after dinner."
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:12 PM
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:29 PM
Chuck: Good Luck!
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:54 PM
If you want to loose 25 pounds the HARD way, go work Group Untility at CP for 5 months. That'll knock the pounds off you. I dropped from a 44 waist to a 40 waist and drooped 25 lbs from the middle of June to the end of Oct.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:35 PM

Chuck: Good Luck!

Thanks :)

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:48 PM
Hey, we all need to loose a few pounds. Just don't deprive yourself totally of the things you love. In stead of having a big chocalte bar, have a few little "nuggets" like the Hearshy minis.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:50 PM
I don't eat much chocolate or chips.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:03 PM
You get the point. When i was trying to loose weight, I found a bag of carrots is good and naturally sweet. It's a nice snack.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007 5:53 PM
Random, but bags of baby carrots sell EXTREMELY fast at the store I work at. I guess I never realized how much people love those until I worked there...

And I never meant to offend anyone with my McDonalds thing, but I always thought that food could be addictive (or the act of eating, to many addiction is not on a substance but a habbit), not any specific venue. Like Hopman chose a healthier alternative to other snacks, food/eating addicts could stock up on healthier choices which is easier then driving to a McDonalds. McDonalds does put a decent ammount of chemicals into their food, but just about any food these days has chemicals into it. *** Edited 2/21/2007 11:14:35 PM UTC by P18***

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:57 PM
Went to the meeting. I can eat anything but need to eat several portions of several types of food per day. The amount isn't the problem. It's what.

Basically I got a point number to work with that I should eat all of it per day. Im allowed a extra 35 during the week for whatever. I can earn points by exercise (Certain amount equals certain points) Ect. By keeping a daily diary, counting everything. I will loose 3-7 pds per week.

Even if you've reached your limit, Theres certain foods (Basically all non yellow vegies) that you can eat all you want. EVEN SAUTEED MUSHROOMS as your body takes more points to burn em than your ingesting.

Eventually it gets hard, But starting off, Should be easy. Those of you who know me, Know I got a long way to go to get remotely normal size. Those of you who don't. Take care of yourself. It's no fun not riding what you want to ride and having joints ache from sheer weight problems.

Chuck, doing the loose for Voyage diet, one year late. My brother started it last year and has lost 112pds though weight watchers.

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:51 PM
Good luck Chuck.

And yes depriving yourself of completely something you want is not good. Even some diabetics are told if you crave a desert when out to eat. Order it and have some just eat enough to stop the craving. The craving will only cause more harm if let go to a level where you splurge.

Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:55 PM
thanks. However I know some Diebetics that eat total crap.

Go figure?


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