Six Flags Mexico Superman - finally a go?

Maybe because he doesn't use english as his first language? What holes Nate? I'd be surprised if this coaster wasn't like the other 100% Morgans.

A language barrier has nothing to do with it.

He claims two Morgan engineers had to leave a meeting because they lived in upstate New York, yet Morgan's offices are located in California.

He also claims that a deal signed with Coca-Cola solved all the issues with the coaster's construction (violations regarding not getting permits, etc). Can someone please explain to me how a marketing deal can solve something like that?

-Nate

Unless the park owed the government money for the proper permits, and the cash generated from that marketing deal was used for that?

Nah, it's Mexico....they just had to "buy off" the appropriate gov't officials to get their variances approved....

Like *I* was the only one thinking it? ;)

And the difference between the Mexican government and the U.S. government is...? ;)

*** Edited 5/18/2004 8:23:50 PM UTC by Rob Ascough***

Doubtful. The Coca-Cola thing was a chain-wide deal, and I seriously doubt there was much money "made" at all. If the issue was about simply paying for permits, I'm sure Six Flags could have done so without a problem. The two things seem to be as unrelated as can be.

-Nate

Yeah, but like rollergator said, this is the Mexican government we're talking about.

So, ship them a free case of Coke and you've got your coaster? :)

-Nate (who really means Coca-Cola, though the other iinterpretation may work better)

A case of Coke might get you a lot more than permits for a coaster :)

Just FYI, there were structural engineers that were working on the project from New York. There was even an article about them. I might have to dig it up...

Just because a company is based in a certain state doesn't mean that the people running the company live there. I could be wrong, but I don't think all of the masterminds as GCII live near Sunbury PA.

I wouldn´t be surprised if the "Hey, this is Mexico"-attitude was responsible for the delay of construction in the first place. Maybe SF thought that they could somehow get around the restrictions and permits just by building the coaster and hoping that no one would ask them to tear it down later. Maybe the bribes were not big enough. :)

It was the same with the Intamin Impulse in SFMW ("Hey, this is just California") which in fact had to be reconstructed because it was too high.

During the same time SF had lots of problems with "Hey, its just Germany". After local politics heavily sponsored the Warner Park with tax money, things began to turn around when SF came in. The promised new freeway-exit and modernized train station weren´t build and environmentalists strongly advocated new thrillrides. I remember that SF was not very happy and I guess that they were just happy to dump the euro-chain.

Rob Ascough said:
Just because a company is based in a certain state doesn't mean that the people running the company live there.

No, not necessarily, but (from the Chance-Morgan website):

"Our California office, located in La Selva Beach, is home to our veteran design and engineering team. This team consists of talented former D. H. Morgan Manufacturing, Inc. employees who have the distinction of developing the biggest and fastest roller coasters in the world. In addition, the California office also provides parts and technical service for all former D. H. Morgan products."

The rest of the Chance-Morgan team (marketing, sales, etc) works out of Wichita, Kansas.

I'm not arguing that the ride wasn't delayed because of permit problems; I think that much is obvious. I'm just pointing out some potential problems with that story (which he admits spawned from a lot of rumors).

-Nate

coasterdude318 said:
How do you have any idea what this ride is going to be like?
-Nate

As much as I tried to stay away, I have to say it:

Nate, according to you, he's just stating an opinion, err, fact...

Keep trying to be funny...you're really getting close.

-Nate

I wasn't trying to be funny at all. Infact, i was just pointing out that I think it weird how you can say things about a coaster that hasn't been built(it'll never be built, it would be boring, bla bla bla...), but someone on here complains about something not being built, how it would be so much fun, and yet you question how he knows this.

Nope, not trying to be funny, just stating the truth(which, in your case, is much stranger than opinion...)

He's claiming the ride was built for airtime and has 7-8 bunny hops. I asked how he knew this, considering (AFAIK) no layout has been released.

The ride I was talking about had a fully visible layout online (and I never claimed anything regarding ride experience...that is, whether it will be good, bad, rough, smooth, etc). But hey, if you're still stuck on a discussion we had months ago, that's your issue.

-Nate *** Edited 5/19/2004 3:42:07 AM UTC by coasterdude318***

But the fact of the matter is, he was stating his opinion as fact about a coaster that has never been built. You did the same about a coaster that has never been built. Layout available or not, noone knows either way.

You act as if its okay for you to do that, but no one else can. Its not just one discussion, but most of the discussions you have on here....thats all I was pointing out....And with that, I am walking away, so say what you will.

No, actually, he wasn't stating his opinion as fact. He was stating an assumption as fact. With a layout available, it would be easy to say whether there were bunny hops or not (just as I was able to say there was a vertical drop on that coaster - there obviously was). Without a layout, you can't make any claims other then something to the extent of "IfF it's like any of their other coasters, it will have..."

I don't expect you to a see a difference; you're attempting to draw a connection between two completely unrelated things. You don't get it, and that's fine...it's certainly not the first time.

-Nate

Think what you will, I'm still gonna let you have the last word this time....