Six Flags America - requests Permit for "Addition"
In some cases that is not possible.
Two relatively local cases to me are:
Hersheypark: While the flow is not terribly bad with no really bad dead ends, there are bottle necks in Carrousel Circle / Founder Circle and the extreme end of Midway America does seem a long way off. The thing is, this is a park that has expanded and developed in stages over the decades. Some of the midways pre existing the current "theme park" era of parks. Good news, even in the "isolated" area of the park, there is food, drink and facilities, so while you are far off from the "hub" of the park, you don't have to go very far if you need something.
Six Flags America: While its history is not as long as Hersheys, how many owners has this park had in its (relatively) short history? IF the original owners had a plan, I don't think that the current owners were too concerned about sticking to it. Basically, its all bout plopping in your newest ride where ever it will fit... so what if no food, drink or facilities are close by. Its almost like a poorly designed RCT park... coasters are everything... we'll add the other stuff if we have a) the money, b) the time, or c) we feel like it.
Dorney Park. In it's nice 'L' shape, there's countless times where I've heard people standing next to the Laser and remarking something to the effect of "I can see my car right there on the other side of the fence, and I have to walk all the way down that way, and then up the hill just to go out and walk back down?" To it's credit, there are plenty of facilities and food places throughout the park.
dragonoffrost said:
But this ain't the WWE which does things to make the net go insane with speculation is it?
Hrrrmmm...so you don't think Vince and HHH read these boards? See your comment? Take offence to it? (especially Hunter, since he's married to Steph and practically controls the WWE) ;)
Haha no I'm not giving Patrick the finger 
Sam A. Marks said:or a cement platform to place soda machines on
Well, probably not a concrete pad considering the last two approved SFA permits WERE concrete pads and the Work Description specifically said " CONCRETE PAD" where as in this case the Work Description says "ADDITION", so that's good news...
BATWING FAN SFA said:
He probably saw it on their long range agenda because the board doesn't hold meetings until thursday of each week.
Or not...go to the County Planning Board Website ( http://www.mncppc.org/pgco/ ), click on the link on the right hand side that says "PERMIT STATUS ONLINE: Check the status of your permit online today!", For Street Number use "13710" and for Street Name use "Central". That is the easiest way to see the most recent permits SFA has applied for, however, you get only as much detail as what is posted now, even once it has been approved,
BATWING FAN SFA said:
Umm...Maybe that "Expected Completion Date" is for the permit and not the actuial addition. I don't know how these things work but isn't that a posibility?
Ya, I'm certain that the date is the date of when the permit will be approved by... *** Edited 12/23/2004 7:38:34 AM UTC by Coaster Lover***
If you can't stand the heights, get out of the line.
As far as I know this will not be anything major due to the fact that we dont get a preview week next year. (could be too 'cold' to actually use the ride in those day!?)
Guys just be patient and have a great holiday, that when all these holidays are over SFA will surely break out the news!
SFAmerica said:
Why whould SFA website promote an attraction if they did not already have a permit for it. Could this permit be for something else not related to the waterpark?
If you knew about the previous arrangements the park has with the county, you would know that the park does not have to get county approval for rides that are considered portable. All they need are the proper permits for the installation of the footers or supports. You'd also know that the plans have already been submitted, and approved for several additions to the park/waterpark which are not part of the accessible public record.
As for the bathrooms, would you prefer that SFA spend tens of thousands of dollars on 300 yards of sewage lines? Or would you prefer that they spend that on new rides an attractions and have you walk a little ways to use the facilities?
As far as the parks layout goes, the infrastructure was designed to be a wild animal park, then a poor excuse of a theme park. Once Tierco/Premier Parks/Six Flags came into ownership, they've done what they can to improve walkways, and increase flow. Skull Island made one cut thru, and when it's appropriate I suspect we'll see another between Batwing and Coyote Creek. ou'd need something to anchor the walkway though, just building the walkway would promote misbehaviour in that wide open hard to guard area rides an attractions should be added.
SAM
Sam A. Marks said:You'd also know that the plans have already been submitted, and approved for several additions to the park/waterpark which are not part of the accessible public record.
Then there's the fact that some people on this board happened upon some interesting facts they weren't supposed to by accident and know whats going there anyhow. Not that its any big secret...
As for the bathrooms, would you prefer that SFA spend tens of thousands of dollars on 300 yards of sewage lines? Or would you prefer that they spend that on new rides an attractions and have you walk a little ways to use the facilities?
This one's easy: Bathroom:). When my bladder is full, I don't want to have to walk a ways to go take a pizzizle, and at that point, I could care less about the 'new in 0?' ride. Focus on more important things before you focus on rides and attractions. See: Thunderhead Gap @ Dollywood. You may have to walk 10 miles from coaster to coaster, but there is a bathroom up there.
...when it's appropriate I suspect we'll see another between Batwing and Coyote Creek. ou'd need something to anchor the walkway though, just building the walkway would promote misbehaviour in that wide open hard to guard area rides an attractions should be added.
Exactly. When BWFSFA's Mr. Freeze Standup or wild mouse or floorless or whatever it is they're getting next year (or the next. Or the next...) gets put back there, or the waterpark gets put back there(;)), you'll see a walk way. No reason for it till then. See again: Thunderhead Gap.
This permit sounds like it's for something very minor. Such permits are very common.
The building permit is often the last step in approval and can come after public announcement. The county has a zoning and planning process that is the real approval for the park to make major additions in most cases. The building permit is reallyan approval of the detailed drawings. Is the wiring going to be done right? Is there enough reinforcing steel in the concrete?, etc.
Sam's right about the connector to Coyote Creek. It's not going to happen until there is a need for it. That will probably be after Gotham City is filled in. Ride locations relative to neighbors are going to also be a factor in any expansion.
Most parks that were not planned integrally from the start have layout issues. We all love Cedar Point, but it's sure a long skinny park. The long hike from front to back is hard on the handicapped and time consuming for the rest of us. And even some of the highly planned parks acquire layout issues with time. BGW now has a dead end in the Apollo's Chariot area, and of course has the problem of the way that the Fest Haus blocks of the land behind it.
If I'm not mistaken(& I could be here) aren't all new attractions proposed for construction by the park put onto the public record? in order to allow the residents living near the park to voice their opinions the county must allow for a public hearing to determine the pros & cons of any such projects & their impact on the local community before any permits can be issued.
Now I gotta agree with Tekno on the restroom issue....they need a 2nd restroom in that area real bad & I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the park spend the extra cash putting one in...the walk from supes to the BR near JJ is stretching it a bit & to have to walk all the way over there from Batwing when you've gotta go is pure torture, besides they don't seem to be spending all that much capital investing in new rides anyhow....all that money seems to be earmarked straight to SFGRADV or SFMM these days.
Now going back to the waterpark,so far nothing has been approved by the county at the present time & it was never mentioned on the conceptual site plan in 99(those rides are already approved so we won't see any planning board meetings regarding those remaining on the list)but any plans for the waterpark rennovations must be approved after a hearing in order for construction to begin.
BATWING FAN SFA said:
Sam:take a look at screamscape's latest update concerning the attractions that are at this point only semi confirmed for the waterpark to see what I'm talking about....granted the last update was posted a month or so ago so you'd have to search a bit to find it but trust me it's there & until we hear otherwise there's no way to 100% confirm or deny the information they've currently posted.
Screamscape says
Our latest rumors claim that the waterpark will add a Proslide Mammoth (Family Raft) and Proslide Tornado (Funnel).
Semi-Confirmed is referring to the teaser on the website, it has NOTHING to do with the "rumor" about the slides and etc.
BWFSFA, you need to examine your use of words. You almost always refer to things as "Facts" when in reality they are simply "Rumors"
The facts we have at this point are simple,
Tropical Fun Warning!
Hurricane Forecast for 2005!
Next Year will be BETTER & WETTER than ever!
THATS IT! and a nebulous request for an addition which appears to take a week to complete.......
Keep posting, keep having fun, just please stop making rumors sound like facts.
This one's easy: Bathroom. When my bladder is full, I don't want to have to walk a ways to go take a pizzizle, and at that point, I could care less about the 'new in 0?' ride. Focus on more important things before you focus on rides and attractions.
I'm inclined to agree with that one. I've not visited Six Flags America (it's on my 2005 itinerary) but I do think that there should be enough bathrooms in any theme park so that you're never more than three or four minutes walk from the nearest set. These also need to be kept clean though... on my first visit to Six Flags Worlds of Adventure the bathrooms were absolutely disgusting. To be fair, though, they were much better when I last visited in 2003.
I develop Superior Solitaire when not riding coasters.
My experience there was definitely not the best ever, with Superman, JJ, and Two-Face all closed, however, the one thing that I really remember not liking about the park was walking halfway across the world to batwing, only to have to turn around and walk all the way back. It was definitely the worst dead end I have ever seen and should have some sort of connection built soon. *** Edited 12/27/2004 5:48:27 PM UTC by Krypton***
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