Shooting video on coasters

I was surfing youtube.com and came across a bunch of on ride coaster videos. I was wondering what you all though about that. I know CP tells every train no filming or pictures taking.

Here is an online ride of El Toro. Though I am against this, its a pretty good clip of it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f777lIQUf14&search=el%20toro%20coaster

That's fabulous. Now every moron with a camera can make it a pain in the ass to work with parks on ERT, enthusiast or not.

Unless I HAVE PERMISSION from the park, I will not take any camera on a Ride. (The last time this happened was during the 2004 ACE Preservation Conference, when I was able to Film Libertyland's Zippin Pippin.) - Hopefully this fine Woodie will get a new home!

Some idiot sitting next to me on Magnum a few weeks back was taking video. Really made me mad. What is the thrill of filming a ride that already has video available for a really reasonable price from the park? Personally I would not want to risk busting up my camera.

If you're working with the park to do it, then great. If you're just some moron, not great. If you're an enthusiast sneaking a camera on, you need kicked in the nuts.

POV video is the most mind numbing thing in the world - I just don't get it.

I'll change my nick to "Black Mamba Fan" soon - but Phantasialand obviously plans the ultimate coup in that respect - instead of On-Ride-Photos, they are right now preparing a service that videotapes everybody screaming away on the coaster, so that you can buy your own trip later on a DVD to take home.

*** Edited 6/26/2006 4:43:55 PM UTC by superman***

They have those already available on ShieKra at BGA. Interesting idea though.

I agree with Gonch. Any enthusiass trying to video while riding you are helping to give the rest of us a bad name.

Any way, as far as Magnum goes, what is wrong with the one that already exists on the internet, is official and you can download for free from Cedar Point themselves? I just don't get it.

The only reason I find on-ride video compelling is if I want to get an idea of a coaster's layout. Otherwise, it's silly. It's not like sitting in front of a TV and watching it is a reasonable substitution for an actual ride. And Shades is right- what's the point of filming a ride that has been filmed countless times already?

You mean watching footage on my home TV doesn't count for my track record? ;-)

Seriously though. I don't trust anyone to hang onto a camera on a ride. Accidents happen, and I don't want to sit behind someone who might lose their camera and have it break my face at high speeds.

I was amazed at how steady he was able to keep the camera on El Toro. And whats the point of waiting in line 2-3 hrs for a ride when you can't even enjoy the ride because your too preoccupied with holding on to your camera and keeping it steady. But yes, im ditto w/ everyone else. This person needs to be kicked in the head for many reasons. I'd rat them out. I dont need no camera flying in my face at 70 mph.

WITH park approval, I have two POVs I'm glad I have. Starliner, and Zippin Pippin. Neither of great quality (ok, amateurish, LOL), but given their current *standing*, I'm glad I got them....

Hopefully, both coasters will operate again and make my stuff worthless...
*** Edited 6/26/2006 6:58:51 PM UTC by rollergator***

I just visited Paramount Canadas Wonderland with my friend and bought a video of myself on TOP GUN that im not sure was worth the price. I'm interested in the deep feelings you all have about any average joe filming POV's. I would like to know what triggers these emotions.

www.cdride.com

I'm not ready to post myself on the web for everyone else to see but here is the source of my single POV collection

Correction! *** Edited 6/26/2006 8:01:32 PM UTC by CoasterDiscern***

I'll take the other side. I really enjoy POV ride video and see no harm in doing it. I also teach web design and video production at a high school - so for me it is an exercise in what kind of quality I can get. I took over two hour of video the last time I was at Knoebels and was very happy with the result both POV and general ride watching. As for seeing the POV spoiling me wanting to ride a coaster.... what? No more so than watching a pre-openning CGI. The ride is the fun, not the watching - that's just documentation.

I find it absurd that some of you see no problem with it.

1. Taking videos on coasters at most parks is againts the rules. If you are caught doing so, they will either take your film or kick you out of the park
2. Holding a camera in your hands while a ride is in motion is a danger to yourself and others around you
3. By disobeying park rules and regulations, you give other coaster enthusiasts a bad name and, in result, effect us all by possibly having certain enthusiast privilages taken away.

Most POV's you can find online anyways. *** Edited 6/26/2006 8:40:18 PM UTC by DorneyDante***

IC, so the rider cam thingy isn't exactly new - it sounded quite incredible to me, I mean it requires a high bandwidth wireless connection between the train and the station, lots of cameras to be installed on the train which also require electrical power, etc,
and a dedicated infrastructure for producing all the DVDs.
But OK, I guess we are living in 2006 now. *** Edited 6/26/2006 8:40:57 PM UTC by superman***

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DorneyDante said:
Taking videos on coasters at most parks is againts the rules. If you are caught doing so, they will either take your film or kick you out of the park

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Well, that's not true. First of all, who is still recording video on film anymore? Second, the park could care less whether or not you have the video, the reason it's not allowed is because of the danger of dropping your camera. It's not like a copyright issue or something.

^Actually it is, because of enthusiasses who try to sell videos of illegal POV movies. The parks see it as infringing on their product, as they do professional pictures sold from pictures taken on property.

There are a select few that let you though, at the MK cant tell you how many people Ive seen recording most of their rides (including BTMRR) and their CMs havent said anything.

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CoasterDiscern said:
I would like to know what triggers these emotions.

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It's just enthusiasts trying to look like big men by obeying all frivilous rules at all times.

example: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kase15_LRYg&search=tatsu%20on%20ride

Set aside the copyright issues, forget the rules, ignore the "big man" crap...

IT'S UNSAFE!

Getting smacked by someone else's camera at 60mph is not a pleasant experience, though with some of the thick skulls I'm seeing here maybe it wouldn't hurt you as much.

There's nothing "frivilous" about it.

Yeah, respect for the parks that feed your habit. They don't want you taking video on the rides. It's their park, their rides and in the end, their call.

It's not hard to figure out, it's not a grey area - if they say no, then you're just being a complete asshole by doing it.

I'm amazed at the number of enthusiasts who think they're above the rules. Time to get over yourselves.

(Of course, this applies to parks with said rules in place - many smaller parks will allow it and many parks are more than willing to work with those who have a legit reason to obtain such footage. :) )