Shoot the Rapids: "The boats didn't fit the flumes"

Posted Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:44 PM | Contributed by Jeff

Cedar Point is still opening Saturday, but its new Shoot the Rapids attraction won't be along for the ride. Engineering problems with the ride -- the boats the passengers ride in were too long and didn't fit the flume -- forced the park to delay the ride's debut by two weeks.

Read more from The Sandusky Register.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:43 PM

Mickey's Fun Wheel is a Premier installation.

The prior poster had it right, the two raft rides and Screamin' are Intamin delivered ride systems.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:48 PM
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I can only imagine how many sensors are on the rapids rides...


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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:25 PM
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This is where that half Canoe in Disney's river came from.


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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:29 PM

I think this article single handily displays Jeff's rightful reason of constant complaints about Cedar Fair.

Why in the world is the CEO of Cedar Fair commenting on and issue about a new ride at Cedar Point. Is that not the job of the public relations director or at the highest the park manager? Yes Cedar Point is the flag ship park, but the most a CEO should say in relation to this is the following: "From time to time new rides experience unanticipated delays that for safety or technical reasons must be dealt with prior to opening." Even that should be said through a mouth peace of Cedar Fair.

The way Kinzel comes up in every article makes it seam like all the people he has running the parks are incapable of doing so. So he has to step in and make the decisions, thus bussing him self with no time to fire all the inept people he has. Take note that I think most all are more than capable of running the parks.

On a side note, I find it interesting that the boats were delivered in December and they just now figured out this problem...

Last edited by Diamondback09, Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:31 PM

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:44 PM
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I wonder why they would not just go ahead and open the ride with the boats they have fixed already?

The weather is still cool, so it's not like they are going to have 4 hour plus lines for it right away.


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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:58 PM

Cedar Point is not at fault here in anyway. The project manager for Intamin, well stupid is as stupid does. Its a shame, as Cedar Point has already paid for STR.

Most other parks don't pay in full until they are 100% with the ride. For that same amount of money spent, Cedar Point could have gotten a version from Premier, with either the first or second lift/drop having the boats reversed.

CF spent heavy with Intamin and B&M for those hypers, and they could have thrown money at Premier also, so everybody wins, and CF would have even built an American-made ride for a change.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:02 PM

How many boats does Pilgrims Plunge run? I want to say it was at least 4 on the day of the Fall Affair.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:03 PM

Pilgrim's Plunge runs 7 - 10 passenger boats.

Last edited by jimvid, Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:06 PM
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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:10 PM

SFNE Freak said:
So since the boats were outsourced, do we think the company that built them didn't follow the specs, or do you think the specs Intamin gave were bad?

There is another possibility: that Intamin delivered specifications, then while the boats were being built to spec, the real world forced design changes that resulted in the constructed ride not matching the design specifications. Which means it got screwed up all around. But hey, it happens!

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:36 PM

New one to me. I would say this made my day but I really don't wish these kinds of problems on people that guy with Intamin. It's not like this one is the 25 million dollar ride that can't always make it over the top or the twist that has a little too much force.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:50 PM

Its not that complicated. Its a fiberglass and steel boat built to fit inside a trough of this width and depth. It has to have a chain catch on it, and it has to have 'x' amount of seats.

Its not the first time a 'bigger' than a log flume boat has been built. You would think Intamin would have it together.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:53 PM
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Yeah, I don't understand why more parks don't go with Premier.


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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:18 PM

New Midway Game at CP- "Fit the Square Boat, In the Round Trough"

Last edited by JoshuaTBell, Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:20 PM
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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:44 PM
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I consider this only wave #1. Wave #2 will hit when the height requirement turns out to be 48".

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:46 PM

I'll just bastardize a line from one of my all-time favotite flicks...

Hey Cedar Point....

You're gonna need a smaller boat.

Mike (AKA Chief Martin Brody)


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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:54 PM

This sounds like a good April Fool's joke. (Checks the calendar...May 11th!)

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:41 PM

You know, Arrows' rides were all installed and opened much easier.

Antique, Cadilac, and Rally cars
Mill Race
Cedar Creek Mine Ride
Corkscrew
Gemini
White Water Landing
Iron Dragon
Magnum
Snake River Falls

You judge.

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:49 PM

Touchdown said:

What company in their right minds would continue to do work with someone who has delivered 6 out of 8 rides with serious structural problems? The incompetence is stunning.

I don't if it counts or not since Six Flags purchased the ride but Possessed is also another ride with problems. It had problems at Geauga Lake and is still having problems at Dorney. It didn't open on time in 2008, it has had more downtime than any other coaster in the park and it still has not opened this season.

Last edited by YoshiFan, Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:50 PM
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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:25 PM

Creditwhore,

Mickeys Fun Wheel is an Intamin creation.

http://www.ridetrade.com/rti/index.php?option=com_content&task=view...&Itemid=34

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Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:50 PM
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No one has said it yet, so here it goes...

EPIC FAIL!

Maybe when you combine a *budget-cut-to-the-bones* chain like Cedar Fair, and mix it with the *nothing-ever-works-right* Intamin, stuff like this is bound to happen, sometimes.


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