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> Why would one purposely take a stance that one knows is going to cause death within one's voter base?

From where I sit, the modern-day GOP has several inter-related axes it likes to grind. Some of the important ones:

• An individual/company knows more about what is best for themsevles/itself than the government can possibly know.
• An individual/company should not be involuntarily inconvenienced for the benefit of someone else.
• Worthy individuals are self-sufficient. They are worthy due only to their own efforts and behavior, and not to circumstance or the support of others.
• Those who need help are unworthy of it, because they have some individual failing that is correctable.

These turn out to be really helpful principles if you are trying to starve the government of tax revenue, eliminate social safety net programs, minimize corporate regulation, etc. etc. etc. They also turn out to be helpful in that you can generate a lot of rage by telling voters that someone else thinks they don't know best, they should be inconvenienced, and they aren't innately better than everyone else; rage is a really good turnout mechanism.

Unfortunately, pro-public-health measures violate most if not all of those assumptions. Individuals don't (and probably can't) know more than public health experts. Public health measures rely on small personal inconveniences for significant good at the population level. The disease doesn't care if you work hard.

The fact that this means their own voters are more likely to die is an unfortunate side effect, but one you can't do much about without challenging the principles around which everything else is based.

The GOP has also been digging in since the time of Reagan that government is the bad guy, unless they lead it. That's a very convenient position to take. Government doing things is not inherently bad (or "socialist," since that's one of their favorite bogeymen). Most of us are born in hospitals that were in some way publicly funded, went to public school, enjoy the safety of a national military, drive on interstate highways, etc.

Brian, that was super succinct and well put. A lot to chew on from few words.

A lot of people here have been hesitant to post in this thread because it has been so circular and has involved people talking past each other. Often multiple times. Looking for something less likely to make people interested in posting in the thread? Straight up politics. Check.

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GoBucks89 said:

Looking for something less likely to make people interested in posting in the thread?

From your lips to God's ears...

More of a republican thing, no?

If you consider the anti-vaccine movement as a snake, its head (or one of them) is actually a democrat. His name is Del Bigtree, and he's a popular topic in classes that teach about the dangers of pseudoscience.

He also recently spoke at a conference that included the following speakers:

1) One "doctor" that professed drinking your own urine is a way to vaccinate yourself from Covid-19

2) Another "scientist" that claimed the vaccine's goal was to turn us into cyborgs

and (drumroll)

This douchebag:

It's funny. A liberal-progressive who just happens to be a leader in the anti-vax movement has found an audience with Pro-Trump conservatives to try and grow his special club while at the same time aiding and abetting in the culling of Republican voters at a higher rate.

Genius, or madman?

Read or listen here.

Strange bedfellows indeed. Even before Covid, a significant portion of anti-vax people were on the fringe left. We also live in a world where non-GMO is a thing because of all of the zero people who have died from GMO's (as opposed to the people who have starved to death from no food).

OhioStater said:

Pro-Trump conservatives

Syntax ERROR

Pro-Trump ≠ conservatives

Yeah, "conservative" has been co-opted to mean populist, brown-people-hating, big spending, conspiracy theory wielding whacko.

I mean, if Muslims should speak out more strongly against terrorism, conservatives should speak out more against Trumpsism I guess (shrugs shoulders or something).

OhioStater said:

If you consider the anti-vaccine movement as a snake, its head (or one of them) is actually a democrat. His name is Del Bigtree, and he's a popular topic in classes that teach about the dangers of pseudoscience.

He also recently spoke at a conference that included the following speakers:

1) One "doctor" that professed drinking your own urine is a way to vaccinate yourself from Covid-19

2) Another "scientist" that claimed the vaccine's goal was to turn us into cyborgs

and (drumroll)

This douchebag:

It's funny. A liberal-progressive who just happens to be a leader in the anti-vax movement has found an audience with Pro-Trump conservatives to try and grow his special club while at the same time aiding and abetting in the culling of Republican voters at a higher rate.

Genius, or madman?

Read or listen here.

Don’t forget RFK Jr. The far fringes of either either side are really nuts.

It's something that has boggled my mind from the beginning. Why would one purposely take a stance that one knows is going to cause death within one's voter base?

For a moment I thought you were going off an a tangent about abortion. Talk about another dead horse political debate.

In unrelated news, it looks like Pfizer’s CEO is NOT a proponent of Theobald Smith’s Law Of Declining Virulence. It appears he is arguing 180°…

Pfizer CEO says omicron appears milder but spreads faster and could lead to more Covid mutations

"I don't think it's good news to have something that spreads fast," Bourla told The Wall Street Journal during an interview at the paper's CEO Council Summit. "Spreads fast means it will be in billions of people and another mutation may come. You don't want that."

Aamilj said:

It's something that has boggled my mind from the beginning. Why would one purposely take a stance that one knows is going to cause death within one's voter base?

For a moment I thought you were going off an a tangent about abortion. Talk about another dead horse political debate.

Do you not see how this is 100% trolling?

From someone who is completely anti abortion, I still see what you’re doing. It’s still trolling.

Yes…I’m the “troll.” Not the guy suggesting/implying “republicans” want to kill their voter base! LOL…

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Aamilj said:

Yes…I’m the “troll.” Not the guy suggesting/implying “republicans” want to kill their voter base! LOL…

I’m not saying they’re not trolling either, but they talk about coasters and stuff. Which you rarely do. And as I posted, your whole point in starting to post here a decade ago was to post on political topics.

So, while you’re both trolling, at least some of us actively post about the sites main topic.

Side note, I’m openly admitting I’m trolling you and you fall for it every time. That’s the whole point I came in to this thread.

But I found this website because I’m interested in theme parks and coasters. You found it because you wanted to make political posts and be a poser.