Shanghai Disneyland will close in effort to contain coronavirus

And then you have this, which I see several times a week at work

Yeah, that pretty much what my daughter described from Paris - everyone has a mask, but it's treated as an inconvenience that gets pushed out of the way to talk and such. She told me about a guy she saw on the metro that pulled his mask down to sneeze into his elbow.

Around here, I occasionally see a bare nose, but compared to what I seem to hear from others in different parts of the country, compliance is exceptionally high here in comparison. I couldn't tell you the last time I saw someone without a mask on where they should've had one.

I was out picking up dinner in the retail area in Kissimmee at 192 and 429, and mask usage was inconsistent, and there was zero distancing in the crowded Bento where I ordered. People just packed in the line.

Am I the only one who knows a lot of people who struggled through two weeks of being sick, or being one degree separated from a lot of deaths (especially among Boomer-aged parents)? It certainly influences my behavior.

I still tend to stay in as much as possible, but do go out for necessities and working in the office 3 days out of 5. My biggest risk is a 10 minute buzz haircut every 6 weeks or so, That being said, around my area mask compliance has been surprisingly consistent. I don't recall a time recently where there was anyone not wearing a mask where it was required.

Around our circle we have had around 12-15 people who have had Covid. Out of all of them, only one person was hospitalized, and that was a healthy 30-something. Everyone else has had a mild case, 10 days or so of feeling blah, then over with. And our group ranges from 20-somethings to 70+.

And suddeenly, HCQ is affective.

Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection - The American Journal of Medicine (amjmed.com)

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)30673-2/fulltext

Jeff said:

I was out picking up dinner in the retail area in Kissimmee at 192 and 429, and mask usage was inconsistent, and there was zero distancing in the crowded Bento where I ordered. People just packed in the line.

Am I the only one who knows a lot of people who struggled through two weeks of being sick, or being one degree separated from a lot of deaths (especially among Boomer-aged parents)? It certainly influences my behavior.

That's interesting. The Bento in Winter Park on 17-92 is a masterclass in distancing and doing it right. But the Blaze Pizza next door is as bad as the Bento experience on your side of town.

And, I know how lucky and fortunate I am to be able to say this, but I know nobody that has any severe issues with COVID-19 infections. I think I am up to 4, possibly 5 individuals I know that have had it. All have been very mild cases, nothing worse than a typical bad cold and a day or two of body aches. I know I'm fortunate, as were they. But it admittedly makes me much more liberal in what I'm willing to do out in the world than if those people had had serious infections or worse.

I have an employee who has lost three family members. We lost a 54 year old deputy on our police force. My wife lost an aunt and uncle.

Plenty of people are suffering.

We had a death in our office back in April, just a few days after some of us switched to working from home. And for the last couple of months we were getting several emails a week about positive test results among people still in the office. Haven't seen one of those in a week or two, now. I also know of a few people at work who have had and recovered from infection. Not many details, though.

I'll spare you the whole breakdown, but at the end of January, Ohio's case numbers (active cases, 7-day average of new cases, etc) are essentially back to where we were at the end of October. The number of new vaccines started (Ohio has no published data yet on second doses) is now roughly equal to the number of "known and probable" cases as of January 10, and I won't be surprised if the number of vaccines started exceeds the number of cases sometime in the next week. If you factor in the likely undercount, we could be as high as 35% population immunity already. I'm hoping the decline in cases accelerates rapidly.

--Dave Althoff, Jr.

Jeff said:

Am I the only one who knows a lot of people who struggled through two weeks of being sick, or being one degree separated from a lot of deaths (especially among Boomer-aged parents)? It certainly influences my behavior.

I went from not knowing anyone that died to knowing 5 people that died with COVID in the past 3 weeks, including my 93 year old aunt. All were older and struggled for several weeks. The youngest was 64 years old. The overwhelming majority of people that I know that have had it, including my own immediate family, had symptoms that were no worse than a bad cold. My mother in law deteriorated to pneumonia and spent a weekend in the hospital. She's improved, but is still struggling. I know a few people that had prolonged, bad symptoms, including my brother. I just passed the one month mark and I'm still fighting fatigue and I get a cough any time I spend time outdoors in the wind and cold.

My daughter had what will likely be her only in person cheer competition this weekend and people were pretty well behaved. There were supposed to be limits on the number of spectators watching each team (2 spectators per athlete) and people really pushed it on day 1 to the point that they actually counted and enforced it on day 2. I saw few if any not wearing masks, even in the hotel across the street from the convention center where we stayed. I have yet to run across any public setting where people were not wearing masks and I live in Texas of all places.

We've been pretty careful to avoid large events and we were doing that prior to being sick. I'll be the first to admit that we pushed it with a few small gatherings during the holidays. I can't say with any certainty where we picked up the virus, especially since we both work and my daughter goes to school, but there's at least a chance we picked it up at those gatherings. It's worth noting that, of the 3 we attended, only one person outside of our family ended up sick in the weeks following.

One case of UK variant in Australia and 2 million people locked down.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/australia-covid-brisbane-lockdown-sing...k-variant/

Is a three day lockdown where you can still go to the grocery store really that productive?

I would expect that a 3 day lockdown would be more productive the less virus is circulating in locked down area. If there is a lot of spread, such a lockdown wouldn't be very productive. But in terms of control of the virus, Australia has done very well.

PointMan said:

And suddeenly, HCQ is affective.

That's not what it says at all. It says it's ineffective when given late in treatment, and it's something you can try early in treatment, but there is no study that indicates that's the case.

Jeff said:

I was out picking up dinner in the retail area in Kissimmee at 192 and 429...

A friend and I had a craving for Miller's last night so we went to the Ale House at that location for the after 10 menu. Figured it would be pretty dead and we would be able to have a table to ourselves away from everyone. We were right and enjoyed some late night apps until we realized we were the last people in there after they closed at 12. Once I started looking around, every employee in there had removed their masks as if their thinking was "We're closed! No need to worry about our customers anymore". And I don't mean they pulled them down, they were removed completely.

In my area of Orlando (mostly Clermont/WG) mask use is about 50/50. Social distancing is almost non-existent unless it's a very long line.

I've noticed same in downtown WG, which has a lot of dense foot traffic, among the people eating outdoors. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

Lord Gonchar said:

...My fear is that you can "Yeah, but..." your way to eternity. At some point we have to say, "This is good enough. This is an acceptable place to move forward from."

I fear the "Yeah, but..." crowd may never get there...or at least impede our progress or reach or acceptance or whatever to getting there.

Like I said in my last post, I think we need to be sure we don't "Yeah, but..." this thing so it drags on for years and years....

This is exactly my fear right here that enough of the population is sufficiently freaked out that they will never consider anything short of full eradication enough for us to go back to the life we had one year ago. I don't want to be held captive by the "if it saves one life" crowd for the next decade or more.

Society is already the complete opposite of that in the worst period so far. "Those people" already lost.

PointMan said:
And suddeenly, HCQ is affective.

That study was published in August 6th so not so sudden?

BrettV said:
Is a three day lockdown where you can still go to the grocery store really that productive?

Probably gives them time to assess if there's an outbreak to worry about through contact tracing.

I'm in Pennsylvania, and was surprised how easy it was to schedule my appointment for the first round of the vaccine. I think the qualifications are rewarding bad behavior. Smoking and obesity are two of the reasons peope are allowed to get on the list ahead of people that are more deserving.

I was classified as being obese 8 years ago, and still take blood pressure medication. I've lost over 70lbs since, but they don't change my classification because every year when I go for a check up they measure my waist with a tape measure and won't pull it tight.

It's just another example how a lot of the systems in our country are broken and don't typically benefit me. I actually feel like I am getting the benefit of the system for a change. Wanted to share and see what others are experiencing in other states.

My wife is an RN and is scheduled on February 8th for hers and I am scheduled on February 16th for mine. Any others on here already scheduled for their first or second round of the vaccine? We just want to get back to as normal as soon as possible.

We have a beach vacation scheduled in June to relax and an Orlando week in November. We were waiting for the new coasters to open at BGT and Universal to return. Hopefully November will work out for us.

Also in PA. I have a few friends in the medical field that have had theirs. I know two people who got their first dose because of pre existing conditions and my mother and father-in-law were able to get their first dose. My wife and I will get it as soon as we are eligible but that's not going to happen any time soon. We have another short ski trip planned, possibly a working from Florida month, a vacation to Utah planned... It would be nice to not have to worry about the virus on these trips but it is what it is. I am just happy people are getting vaccinated.