SFNO's Batman being dismantled

Friday, December 15, 2006 7:09 PM
they should move Six Flags to the Northshore of Lake Pontchatrain. Here we are above sea level and there is ton on of empty land here.

Bolliger/Mabillard for President in '08 NOT Dinn/Summers

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Friday, December 15, 2006 7:12 PM
beast7369's avatar Why they cant do the xray in the field like anywhere else is beyond me.
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Friday, December 15, 2006 7:22 PM
Because Six Flags likes to it the expensive way

Bolliger/Mabillard for President in '08 NOT Dinn/Summers

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Friday, December 15, 2006 8:37 PM
From nola.com:

"The company that owns Six Flags New Orleans does not want to reopen the flood-ravaged eastern New Orleans theme park, and has sent a proposal to the city that would allow the amusement company to walk away from its 75-year lease, according to documents.

Six Flags Inc. has offered to pay the city $10 million to cover rent to the city and to give the city 66 acres of land the company owns adjacent to the park as well as city 20 percent of its insurance proceeds above $75 million. It is unclear how much insurance money the park will receive. The amusement park has been closed since Hurricane Katrina."

From what I've heard on other posts, SFNO has only received around 10 million in insurance co $$, and the insurance co's say damage is 30 million. I don't think the city will bite.... hope they can get out of the 75 year lease....ouch! What were they thinking!!

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:50 AM
I think if they were able to get out of the lease they would of Announced it. Since They have not even said a word about it in any of the conference calls and press releases, I believe they were not able to get out of the lease and are now begging to rebuild the park for reopening in 2008. I think Shapiro's Idea is to use the Insurance money to rebuild a much smaller scale amusement park. I would expect that it will be de flagged. As for BTR, It could be that they are going to sell it and use the money to help rebuild the park.
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Saturday, December 16, 2006 12:56 AM
I am not sure how that park could get any smaller or y they would want to rebuild there. The place is a swamp. a mile to the north after you get off the I-10 bridge there is a sign for airboat rentals

Bolliger/Mabillard for President in '08 NOT Dinn/Summers

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:24 AM
Or maybe they plan on doing nothing to the land. IT might be cheaper to just leave it be and ride out the lease then rebuild the park.
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Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:28 AM
It would take decades and I dont think that Six Flags inc. would do that.

Bolliger/Mabillard for President in '08 NOT Dinn/Summers

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:15 PM
I just want to say what is so wrong with Batman the Ride going to Fiesta Texas. I don't understand how Sea World plays into this it all. I would never want to go to Sea World because it just seems like a bad and boring place for me. It has animals, and is more focused on shows than anything else. It has only 3 roller coasters or something.

While Six Flags Fiesta Texas deals with rides including roller coasters, and of course has some flat rides. If you go to Sea World, I guess you wouldn't care if Fiesta Texas would be getting it, but I just don't understand why Six Flags couldn't get one too. On top of it, if your Six Flags, you can show the competition that we have one too, so why in the heck go to Sea World.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:25 PM
rollergator's avatar ^ LOL, I don't think anyone has said there's anything "wrong" about the ride going to SFFT. As a matter of fact, I'd wager that *IF* this B:TR gets relocated inside SF, it's a virtual no-brainer that SFFT would be its new home (SFGE having the SLC on-site already may or may not affect this decision).

The *issue* raised about the nearby B:TR at SWT is something that I'm sure would come up in discussion around the table, but I *seriously* doubt it would play a major role...

Never forget that two of the Premier spaghetti bowls are in *veryclose* proximity (SFA/PKD)....only enthusiasts would really know or care that Sea World's highly-themed B&M invert has the same layout as the new unthemed version at SFFT.

Wouldn't be TOO surprised if something unexpected doesn't happen with this ride - a new operator taking over a smaller version of Jazzland (sponsored by that nasty new Pepsi product?), going overseas, lots of possibilities exist...

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:38 PM
john peck's avatar I don't think it makes a difference if it winds up at SFFT. The same crowd doesn't necceserally visit both parks, plus most of them really wouldn't know the difference anyway.
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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:43 PM
When I lived in San Antonio most people would have season passes to both Sea World and Six Flags there are would sometimes go to Sea World in the moring and drive 10 minutes over to Fiesta Texas in the Afternoon!!!

I loved having SFFT across the freeway from me! It was ran very well and had a lot of family rides!


Top Three Parks: 1) Islands of Adventure 2) Bucsh Gardens Europe 3) Six Flags Magic Mountain
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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 3:52 PM
rollergator's avatar When RedZone first took over and Mark S. was exclaiming the virtues of SFGE, I understood that GE was closer to the media market he was playing to (i.e., NYC), but there's no doubt in my mind that SFFT was the park that REALLY showed off everything that "the new and improved SFI" is supposed to be about...

Fabulous park, fabulous staff, fabulous shows, fabulous theming, and to top it all off, an unbelievably spectacular setting. In the environment they got when they bought SFFT, costumed characters are almost redundant...

I came *thisclose* to visiting SFNO about a month before Katrina...can't help but think if it had remained a smaller unbranded park with fewer expensive and high-tech rides, there might be someway, somehow, that *someone* would be operating a park there for '07....Nawlins isn't "back", but the progress appears to be *SLOW, but steady*.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:30 PM
Yeah the progress is defiantly slow. Every day on the news its all talk about the hurricane. I am beginning to get interested in a park called Blue Bayou and Dixie Landin' which is on a constant spree of adding some awsome waterrides. They hold a few records and are starting to put in some good thrill rides and they are great on flat rides, the only problem is that the park seems like it might be out of space because it seems like it is squezzed on 20 acres of land and they are filling in every little bit of space, but I could see this park getting better. I am certain I am going to get season passes again this year because last year it was great and only is moderatley crowded

Bolliger/Mabillard for President in '08 NOT Dinn/Summers

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:54 PM
Gator,
Is SeaWorld's Great White really "highly themed" aside from the cool-looking trains? I'm not nitpicking words here...I'm genuinely curious, as I have not yet gotten down there.

-Nate

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:52 PM
rollergator's avatar The station is themed too Nate, it's nothing spectacular, but pretty cool. "Highly-themed" may have been an exaggeration, but compared to the normal B:TR theming, anything *different* was a welcome respite... :)

The shame was the ride was potentially the worst B&M invert I've ridden, roughness-wise (on par with Ice Dragon). This was a few years' back, though, and MIGHT be different now...


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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:34 PM

Audioslaved said:
they should move Six Flags to the Northshore of Lake Pontchatrain. Here we are above sea level and there is ton on of empty land here.

That's where I live....you may move Megazeph and Batman to my backyard now :)


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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 10:58 PM
What's the station themed as? I don't think I've ever seen any pictures or anything. Busch has certainly done an exceptional job theming some of their other rides, and now you've got me curious.

-Nate

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:33 PM
^It isn't really "themed" in the sense of Alpengeist or Montu, but the inside queue kind of reminded me of being inside a cage underwater -- you know like what they stand in on those Discover channel shows. Of course it has been awhile since I have been there.

Here is what the outside of the queue looks like: http://www.midwestinfoguide.com/gallery/parks/swt/2.html *** Edited 12/20/2006 4:33:50 AM UTC by Swoosh***

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:37 PM
Olsor's avatar As far as I can remember, the "theming" involves walking through a building, then a queue covered in some rope netting. They didn't really go all the way on the theming in San Antonio like they did in Orlando.

Here's a shot from Windows Live Local.

The shame is that half the ride is obscured by fencing.

As for SFFT and SeaWorld, they co-exist very well down here. They're not out to shut each other down because there's plenty of business to go around for both. A lot of people aren't even aware SeaWorld started adding thrill rides ten years ago. Each park has its own charm and its own draw for visitors.

Hypothetically speaking, of course, it would be a little weird to have two Batman clones 10 miles apart, but only because they're such major rides. No one would flinch if there were two identical wild mouse rides that close together. And I doubt anyone would pass up a ride on a SFFT version of Batman because they'd already been on a mirror-image version down the road. The mirroring alone might be enough to convince folks it's a different ride altogether.

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