SFNE's Management: Good or Bad?

Ravenguy98, when was the last time you went to SFNE? When you get there, then you can call it whatever you like, but until you go there, you may want to reserve judgement.

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Do you hear the Rumble at the Lake?......BoulderDash!

Everyone will have different opinions on this. Just to add my opinion...I go to the park about 10 times a year and have been going since before it was bought by Premier. I think it is one of the most poorly run parks I have ever been to and I have been to a lot. I like the rides and it is within a two hour drive, so I continue to go there. But, the park is very poorly run and the customer service is terrible. If I didn't have such a negative opinion on how it is run, i wouldn't be writing this because I don't like to talk badly about parks.

superellen said:
Ravenguy98, when was the last time you went to SFNE?

I was there this weekend. Granted, it wasn't open, but i was there. ;)

Trust me on the things i'm saying here. My boyfriend worked there in trams, rides, and security. I have horror stories from all 3 sections. Also, i really don't feel like reserving judgement, because there are plenty of other people here that know what i'm talking about.
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*** This post was edited by ravenguy98 on 12/6/2001. ***

Well, Ravenguy, thanks for your knowledgeable statement. Now I know that you don't have to go to a park when it's open to know everything about it! Thank you for being so smart!

By the way, the sarcasm was intended.

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Do you hear the Rumble at the Lake?......BoulderDash!

I am knowledgable on the subject. I never claimed to know everything about the park. I was just stating what i knew to be true.
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Ravenguy,

The reason I don't want to state what happend to me at the park is becauase I KNOW it will turn into a huge flame war, something I am really against. I brought up a list of things last year on another board and that is exactly what happend. Instead of my opinion being respected, it was turned into a " He hates SFNE because. (insert topic here)" type of thing.

Customer service is a big reason I like parks. Look at Holiday World. They are not the largest park, or even the most popular, but look at all what they do for guests. They provide guests with not only a selection of great rides, but they do circles around most of the larger theme parks as far as treating guests right.

I said this before in another thread......... A park can have the best rides in the world, but if the park doesn't have good people to run the park, then the park experiance severly lacks IMO.

-Sean F

You are right, Sean, and the feelings of this board refelct that. I mean, which is more loved by virtually everyone on this board, HW, or SFNE? Exactly.
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alright good...maybe all you people will stay out so I can have shorter waits for SROS and the B&M less wait time for me!

I am going to go with sfne guy on this one. I am sure that HW is a wonderful park. I will find out this year at SRM, which I am very excited for. But if certain people feel that SFNE is a horrible place, just don't go there. There are plenty of us S:ROS fanatics who would love it if you stay away because of Tram horror stories. So please, feel free to remain atop your high horse, the rest of us will be riding the Ride of Steel!
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Do you hear the Rumble at the Lake?......BoulderDash!

I understand what Sean F. means when he doesn't want to list everything that was wrong with his visit to SFNE because people will think he is not respecting his opinions and will turn this into a flame war. From the last two posts before me is clear evidence of that. Superellen and SFNE guy are biased toward SFNE because it is there home park or very close by. You two have to realize that even your home park can hav many flaws.

Heck, I know my home parks of SFA and PKD hav man flaws. PKD: high prices, no flat rides, low capacity, mediore employees, etc. SFA: unfriendly and unproductive employees, stacking trains, high prices also, uncleanlines in some areas etc: I realize that my parks have flaws and you two have to realize that also.

SFNE guy and Superellen are not directly attacking Sean F. for his opinions, but there is some disrespect in their posts. You aren't responding to his opinions such as "unfriendly tram service" but instead are just saying, "Stay away and don't come then." How is that productive and helping to resolve or clarify the problems of the park.

Give suggestions, examples of god treatment to show that SFNE isn't a bad park, but don't just say "stay away." That is just rude and unhelpful. I now know why Sean F. doesn't want to state his reasons for disapproval, because he will get bashed by people who's home park is SFNE and have biased, one-wayed opinions. I myself have unfortunately never visited SFNE. I was supposed to this past summer but never got around to it.

I can't comment on the services there therefore. But, hopefully, when I visit there soon, I will only have good things to say about the park unlike Sean's terrible experiences, unfortunate for him.

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Dave

*** This post was edited by ACE15 on 12/6/2001. ***

ACE15 said:
Superellen and SFNE guy are biased toward SFNE because it is there home park or very close by. You two have to realize that even your home park can hav many flaws.
SFNE guy and Superellen are not directly attacking Sean F. for his opinions, but there is some disrespect in their posts.

My home park is Rye Playland, in NY.
And my very first post, which you may have missed, was not addressed to Sean F., but to Ravenguy for bashing SFNE without having visited it.
You should read all the posts from the beginning before you say something about somebody.
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Do you hear the Rumble at the Lake?......BoulderDash!

Im just saying we dont need more ousiders who want to compare a place like HW too a SF park...SROS take it or leave it.

How about you all just go to CP instead.ohhh that sounds nice,,lol

*** This post was edited by sfne guy on 12/6/2001. ***

well i am from maine. my home park is funtown usa. a very small park. but it is the cleanist safest park i know of. the director of opps makes sure everyone is happy basicly all the time, so i see what is ment by the public relations staff. but what does sfne have that funtown doesn't??? the thrill rides. sfne with superman, cyclone(to bad bout the new 2001 version liked it rought and wild) as well as other rides. sfne is plagued by common growing and large park problums of lines and some lakining in how clean the park is. an expected thing when you consider the size of the park to what it was as riverside. it's still growing and ever major park has such growing pains.

Listen, guys, the thread was started as a discussion as to whether you thought that the management at SFNE was good, or bad. It seems to me if you didn't come into this thread ready to discuss it, then you should just stay out of the thread. Saying stuff like "Then stay out of the park if you don't like" doesn't really make for good discussion, and just shows that you don't really have a very good argument. In other words, if you don't like the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
Also, its not like S:ROS makes your park. I'm sure its very good (the vast majority of my friends that have ridden it say its the best steel in the world) but its not like S:ROS is the only thing at the park. Its just one coaster, floating in a sea of problems.
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*** This post was edited by ravenguy98 on 12/6/2001. ***

Superellen,

While your comments may have been directed towards Ravenguy, you didn't show in your response who you were responding to.

Ace15,

I am glad you understand why I don't want to list what happend. First off, this thread is already turning in a flame war or sorts so this will by my last entry into it. If I would have listed my complaints, I have a feeling it would have gotten much worse.

-Sean

SFNE is a place you gotta love. You might get treated like crap, you might have an unpleasant guest experience, but hey, that's the East Coast baby, so get over it. So what if it's a corrupt little mismanaged park, it's got character! The atmosphere is genuine, no fake BS with everybody all sunshine smiling face. And by the way, the coasters are great. If you are a true coaster fan you will keep on coming back.

Six Flags New England has a new park director. Mr. Joe Meck, former park manager for Warner Brothers Movie World in Germany will be taking over. He is known for doing an incredible job and will certainly make SFNE a higher quality establishment. I can't wait to see what he does for the park.
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Erik Johnson
Theme Park New England
SFNE 2002: Bigger is not always better.

That is GOOD NEWS.

JDB said:
You might get treated like crap, you might have an unpleasant guest experience, but hey, that's the East Coast baby, so get over it.

I've been to plenty of parks on the east coast that have been wonderful to me. Its not like you can simply write off employees at the park but doody heads just because they are from the east coast.

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