SFKK- For Sure Shuttle Loop?

The thing is, I wasn't kidding - just stupid! I really didn't know. Thanks for clearing that up though.

Lol Brad, I like your signature..laughing hysterically. :)

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Viper had been sitting in the SFoG employee parking lot all of the 2002 season, rusting away. Duane Marden, owner of RCDb (stated above), usually leaves his source anonymous, but says it is always 90% correct. I hope Viper (Tidal Wave, also known as) will be erected at SFKK, seeing as I will be stopping by the park in June 2003. The problem is it is almost 25 years old, and in its last months at SFoG, took a ton of maintainence. Still, a classic ride, that should be erected no doubt, especially at a smaller park like SFKK.

Thanks Den...:). I was *thingking* that a short but sweet response might be forthcoming. You certainly took the opportunity and RAN with it....you had it all perfect, 'cept you forgot to throw in an insult or two...I hear investors liek that....;)

RJ....ah, never mind....

Mark W. Baruth said:

I may have to grab Den and head down to SFKK, since my wife has pledged she will never return.

Try to get there early in the season, and you'll probably have a better experience.

We went for opening day last season, and had a great time. If the place isn't crowded, it's a lot of fun.

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gator - contrary to what RollerJunkie thinks, I was insulting our forward-thinking friend, not you. I'm pretty sure you got it, but just wanted to make sure... ;)

Mark W. - Since my wife has pretty much vowed off amusement parks altogther, I just might take you up on that! I'm still waiting to meet you for DDR sometime.

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I am a horrible DDR player, Den...I have no doubt that you will embarrass me. That being said, shoot me an e-mail ( mark@baruth.net ) sometime and we'll hook it up.

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I love impulse coasters, but I'm also really excited now that it might be a shuttle loop. This is contrary to what I originally said but I've never ridden one, and plus I'm curious to see how they're gonna fit it in there!

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Impulse coasters seem to be the next big coaster fad, so I would rather welcome Viper to SFKK since Im sure many more Impulses will be popping up in the future throughout the country, and the Shuttle Loop seems to becoming rare.

I enjoyed Viper at SFoG. It's a good edition to any park. It's more intense than it looks.

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If I may venture to give my opinion......If this almighty shuttle loop is anything like Greezed Lightning at PGA, I would much rather an impulse coaster. I love Anton's creations as much as joe schmo, but think of the free fall, the holding brake, the launch, dangling feet.

Antuan - Viper is also a drop-weight launch like PGA's Greezed Lightning. Can anyone who has ridden both comment on how Viper was operated at SFOG in comparison to Anton's ride at PGA?

FYI, both Monty and SFAW's Greased Lightning are both flywheel launches, and for some reason that seems to make a difference on the amount of braking on the return run.

Moosh

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When I rode Viper in 2001 compare to riding Greased Lightnin in July 2002, I noticed that Viper seemed like it had a more powereful launch, but was over-breaked on it's way into the station than what GL was. Both are still great.

Den, I completely understood where YOU were coming from, hence my 9 pm post in appreciation of the effort you put in to type that post....believe me, I know from experience how hard it really is to be THAT incoherent...Santa's definitely giving ME coal this year, rofl...

'Moosh, really don't remember PGA's Anton too well, but what do you mean by "how it was operated?" *IF* I can help...and let's face it, not too likely...I will try. But, if we were to line up all the Anton shuttles on one Midway, and I'll take Monte's back seat over any other. John Odum (SFoG) smiled today when I mentioned this thread, and said....NOTHING...:).

The SFKK web page now says "Lightnin' is about to strike for the 8th time in the same place! Stay tuned for details..."

The "8th time" is referring to the new coaster, since they have seven now. And why spell it "lightnin'" unless that's going to be part of the name?

My guess is that they've decided to abandon both the Viper and Tidal Wave names and will use Astroworld's shuttle loop name, Greezed Lightnin'.

That makes sense for two reasons: 1) They can be cheap and sell the same merchandise for both rides, and 2) Along with Thunder Run, they can now promote the rides as Thunder and Lightnin'.

'Gator - the reason I ask is that all the fly-wheel launched shuttles from Anton I've ridden* were not braked on the return leg, so trains were able to go almost all the way up the back spike. All of the weight-drop models I've ridden** were braked so hard that the front of the train barely even made it up the rear spike. Since SFOG's was a weight-drop launch I was wondering how it was operated there.

Moosh

[*KBF, SFAW]

[**PGA, SFGAm, La Feria de Chapulapec]

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Moosh, any idea why they operated like this?

Cam.

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Cameron Silver

Does anyone remember if Kennywood's Laser Loop did this? It was also of the flywheel type. I'll hafta check my video of it. Three other models went to Japan, and one to Belgium (anyone wish to comment on those? LOL). I searched high and low on the Schwarzkopf site, but there isn't any info regarding brake procedures. Probably just the preference of that particular park, since it means less abrupt, final braking. I prefer the KBF method, since there's nothing like sitting in the back and watching that bumper come closer, and closer..........and closer!

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As far as I recall, 'Moosh is correct! What's that about even blind squirrels finding nuts once in awhile...;). Pretty sure SFoG's *did* have that "obscene braking"....and now that you mention it, PKD's King Kobra did as well....

Since I haven't been to SFAW, that *could* explain why I prefer Monte over ALL the others....and probably DOES. Arrow Guy has the spirit, the back seat on Monte is pure joy!

*** This post was edited by rollergator on 11/22/2002. ***

As Viper and King Kobra are the only Anton shuttles I've ridden (both weight-drops, of course), I can definitely attest to the fact that the train barely made it up the back spike. I also never realized that there were shuttles that do travel considerably far up the back spike. Nice to know. Now, if there was only a flywheel in the Eastern US...

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