SFI s new coaster for 08
Intamin Fan said:
We spent a day-1/2 at King's Island in the middle of June on a Friday and a Saturday, and the park was relatively dead. Compare that to last year's BeastBuzz where 40,000 people showed up on that Saturday. How would you explain that?
Annecdotal evidence.
Ronman said:
But with Maverick down the road the Bar has been raised and the Future changed forever.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Please.
matt. said:
Intamin Fan said:
We spent a day-1/2 at King's Island in the middle of June on a Friday and a Saturday, and the park was relatively dead. Compare that to last year's BeastBuzz where 40,000 people showed up on that Saturday. How would you explain that?Annecdotal evidence.
First off, if you're going to use a big word, make sure you spell it right. You only need one 'n'. Anyway Matt, the 40,000 number I quoted came from the PR director. I think Maureen would have access to those numbers.
There is no question that the the day-1/2 we were at KI in the same time period wasn't anywhere nearly as crowded. Even with Drop Zone, Delirium, and Son of Beast out of commision, if the park was crowded you think you would have seen that evidence show up in the other areas of the park.
Edit: Sorry, I had to laugh really hard at Ronman's comment about Maverick. Come on, I'm an Intamin Fan and I find that comment to extremely silly. I rode it twice, so point out one thing to me that's revolutionary about the ride?
1) Reuse of previous ride's station NO see El Toro which took over Viper's station
2) LSM lifthill NO see California Screamin
3) Runs more than three trains NO see California Screamin again, any Wild Mouse, or Dragster
4) Has a LSM/LIM launch NO see Volcano the Blast Coaster
5) Uses water cannons NO see Flying Super Saturator/Roller Soaker
6) Has a 95-degree drop NO see Eurofighters
*** Edited 9/8/2007 1:41:24 AM UTC by Intamin Fan***
You are the most clueless person I have had the misfortune of reading your posts.
You are a typical enthusiass. It's obvious you have no clue on what is going on with SFGAm. Just because your personal wishlist of additions isn't happening, doesn't mean others feel the same. The park will be re-built from the ground up? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Stop visiting the park if you don't like it. *** Edited 9/8/2007 5:57:27 AM UTC by Chitown***
My favorite MJ tune: "Billie Jean" which I have been listening to alot now. RIP MJ.
As for the SFStL comment about getting all these new additions... though they are nice and new to the locals, but really...
Scooby Doo was just a revamping of the SBNO for sometime Castaway Kids ride. Everyone has a tornado now adays. BBNP is 3/4 of the old looney tunes land. S:TOP came from SFAW and Excalibur came from SFGAd. The park probably wouldn't have even received them if it wasn't for the spectacular maitenence crew there. Though, Tony Hawk was a brand new (and fantastic) addition to the park. :)
I am really enjoying all the changes Shapiro and Co. are making.
My favorite MJ tune: "Billie Jean" which I have been listening to alot now. RIP MJ.
Anyways, the way I see it, the parks are getting what they deserve. Six Flags Great America is a great park, why shouldn't the be rewarded?
d*rockin said:
I'm sorry... I've only been to SFA once, and will definitely not be returning. From my visit there, I can see why it is being neglected. I think they have a nice selection of rides to get them by maybe they could work on guest relations?
I'm sorry. Let's forget about the park employees, for the time being okay. The park is working on that issue.
However, the guests of this park purchase, general admission tickets, season passes, buy season parking passes, purchase food in the park, rent rafts in Hurricane Harbor, pay to ride Sky Coaster and the Go-Karts and see/hear the same in park advertising as every other Six Flags park. SFA should be entitled, just like any park, to receive a new ride every once and a while. Balance ride investment and improving the infrastructure of the park. I can deal with getting a new ride every other year. What I can't deal with is not getting a ride two or three years in a row or in the case of SFA, five years, going on six without a new dry ride. I'm not saying the park needs a new double digit, million dollar coaster. A nice family coaster would be a great addition to the park and replacing the inverted flat rides that have been removed over the years (the park now has none). *** Edited 9/9/2007 1:40:03 AM UTC by coasterguts***
A day at the park is what you make it!
The park is getting a fairly medium attendance in my opinion. So, why add much there? Washington DC is going to give you people touring in. The biggest park they have is only 3 hours away, and the attendance I've heard isn't the lowest in the chain.
The park is just small the way it is now, and they would have to add major money for more people to come to the park. Who cares if they get rid of some ride like Batwing, and put in another ride? They need to expand that park because it's so small. Replacing one ride for another is not going to help the park.
I wonder if SFA didn't exist, would most of those people go to SFGAdv instead??
And for SFGAv being 3 hours away? Again, we have those other three parks all within 2 hours from SFA. So no, they're not going to SFGAv (Most atleast).
Any idea what the new coasters are an a for sure list of were they are going?
I know one will be SFStL... other 7?
The other 6? Not too sure.
Spinout said:
I wonder if SFA didn't exist, would most of those people go to SFGAdv instead??
No! If SFA didn't exist, Cedar Fair and Kings Dominion would reap the benefits. If anything there is another reason why SF should be putting some new attractions in SFA. If SF really thinks people will travel to Great Adventure over Kings Dominion then they really should reconsider that opinion. I have talked about the nostalgia of Kings Dominion. ALOT of families grew up in this area going to Kings Dominion and they still do.
There are enough rides and attractions in the amusement industry that SF could make Great Adventure and SFA two very unique parks and reap the rewards.
A day at the park is what you make it!
d*rockin said:
Back to the original topic...Any idea what the new coasters are an a for sure list of were they are going?
I know one will be SFStL... other 7?
SFNE will be receiving a Mack family coaster to be installed in the south end where the RT66 antique cars are. The whole southend is going to be rethemed for 08 and rumor has it that Double Trouble will be removed.
Colin Fisher said:
^ No, they'd go to Hershey, Kings Dominion, or Busch Gardens.
And for SFGAv being 3 hours away? Again, we have those other three parks all within 2 hours from SFA. So no, they're not going to SFGAv (Most atleast).
More people in the DC area go to KD rather than SFGRADV because it's the next closest park at 1.5 to 2 hours driving distance & it's also a straight shot down 95.
A day at the park is what you make it!
And as for driving Distance...
from Germantown, MD.
Hershey - 2 hours
KD - 1.5 Hours (Sometimes less depending on traffic)
SFA - 30 minutes (Sometimes more depending on traffic)
Busch - 2.5 Hours
Six Flags Great Adventure...4 or more Hours. Traffic is ALWAYS horrible on 95 which is the only way to get there pretty much.
Spinout said:
^You have Washington, DC right there, and you have Six Flags Great Adventure only 3 hours away. It's just too close to SFGAdv. Think about the people that live an hour and a half away from both parks. Which park is the better one to choose based on attractions. I personally think they are just too close to each other. A person an hour and half away from each park could get a season pass, and go back and forth from each one to another without "vacationing."The park is getting a fairly medium attendance in my opinion. So, why add much there? Washington DC is going to give you people touring in. The biggest park they have is only 3 hours away, and the attendance I've heard isn't the lowest in the chain.
The park is just small the way it is now, and they would have to add major money for more people to come to the park. Who cares if they get rid of some ride like Batwing, and put in another ride? They need to expand that park because it's so small. Replacing one ride for another is not going to help the park.
I wonder if SFA didn't exist, would most of those people go to SFGAdv instead??
Normally, I'm not a repeat the whole quote (or even a major part of the quote kind of person), but I'm not sure I get your point.
If you can get there in three-hours, six-minutes from SFA to Gadv. as Mapquest says, my hats off to you. I assume that you didn't need to stop for the bathroom, you had something to eat, that the toll plazas weren't backed-up (because you had EZ-Pass), and that 495/The Capital Beltway wasn't backed-up if you left during rush-hour.
Using your same argument, it's not that far from Gadv. to SFNE. You only need to tack on forty-one minutes from the SFA to Gadv. estimate according to Mapquest. I doubt that forty-one minutes is a deal-breaker to most people, if traffic cooperates with you.
Let's see, big free Hurricane Harbor, no.1 rated steel coaster, loads of flats, no one from New Jersey or New York to deal with. Oops, sorry about that last part.
A person who lives an hour-and-1/2 away from SFA or Gadv. would be located somewhere in Harford or Cecil County, MD I believe. If they did live up there, then yes, Gadv. would make sense, but there's a lot of country and suburban folk who live there who may not care for the people from New Jersey or New York. Whoa, did I just say that again?
Spinout, you're missing the whole point when you mention the medium-attendance factor of SFA, so they don't need anything new. SFA has the potential to have huge attendance. Things were really good for a while there. From 95' through 01', new attractions were added every year. 03' was the last ride added in the dryride side, and then the drought...
During that time we lost a fake Enterprise, then Iron Eagle--which literally was the ceterpiece of the park with its' Six Flags chasing logo at the top--and in the same year we lost a Chaos, and then this year, the Tilt-a-Whirl was removed with no replacement.
When you got King's Dominion hammering away every year with something new, and Hersheypark adding new attractions fairly regularly too, for Six Flags inc. not to go on the offensive at SFA every once in a while makes absolutely no sense.
Maryland is the richest state in the United States, and add to that the D.C. suburbs of Virginia which are also extremely wealthy, and it makes absolutely no sense why they're leaving all that money in the consumers pockets.
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