SFGAm to get new $35M waterpark, SF capex in 2005 is $90M

Screamscape has on its site that the go-karts are going to be moved away(possible by splashwater falls)for the upcoming water park.

One of the ideas I heard a couple employees talking about on Sunday was that they might move the bus' to the overflow lot and use most of the lot in that area for the waterpark. They were saying they might have a bus unloading area and then have them park in the other lot.

Brad

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I think the waterpark will be built across I-94 where lots of tree removal is occuring. *** Edited 8/17/2004 10:58:24 PM UTC by X Somebody***

Except that the land you're referring to has already been sold for $12M to the industrial park across the way, making it impossible for SFGAm to build the waterpark over there.

It's looking very likely that it's going in the parking lot.

Joe C.

There's a small (narrow, but long) stretch of land behind a birm on the North-East side of the park (where Shock Wave was/is still stacked up). It runs along the service drive leading to the employee lot. Two years ago there was a lot of bulldozer activity there. Could it be going in there (with some parking lot expansion)? There's a drainage pond in there now, but just curious...

d8

With the news that survey markers are in the parking lot, I think we have our location.

Moving the Go-karts in the place of Splash makes alot sense.
- Go-Karts use gas as does the Cars. Nuf said.
- Splashwater Falls has no filtration system, which is why I do not ride that ride. Move it either over by the Flumes and Rapids and install a filtration system or move it into the waterpark. The ride is always closed when the temps are cold anyway.
- The addition of the waterpark in the bus lot creates interesting future coaster posibilities. Where???

- I have always thought that they should have a remote parking lot for workers and bus them over to the park, which would free open a lot of space for park expansion.

Think about it.

du8die and BMCOASTER,

Nothing of any size will be added to the east side of the park - either by the berm (not birm) or in the employee parking lot. The neighbors on that side of the park have been whining about the noise from the rides and the people on them for years now...

The noise factor has always been an issue in the entire area, I was just stating thats what they should do.

I heard that six flags owns some land around the olive garden or something and that the're going to add some transportation thing to bring you there. Now another thing about that is that they'll probably add more parking there...

And it's a good thing too that sfgam is getting a water park because it's one of the most underated theme parks. And the're aren't any good water parks by me so I know I'll be spending some time there.

Now I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this before (because I haven't had enough time to read all of this conversation) but the park and the water park will have seperate admissions, but you'll probably get some deal if you get the season pass for both the park and the water park.

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Youngin' said:
I heard that six flags owns some land around the olive garden or something and that the're going to add some transportation thing to bring you there. Now another thing about that is that they'll probably add more parking there...

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Personally I would not count on that area being for the waterpark. There just is not enough property there for anything of the size that would be need for SFGAm's waterpark. Sure a small indoor waterpark and hotel would fit nicely there but that is about it.

The only semi available property is across Grand Avenue from McDonalds/Joe's Crab Shack/Olive Garden. There is an already approved indoor waterpark and hotel for that area. However I don't believe it is associated with Six Flags in anyway. But if it is it would be a smart way to go to gather some year round revenue.

"Word on the Street" is that the water lines and the pipe lines have have already been placed. (During the building for the 2004 season.) Things are already starting to get marked, and construction will start soon.

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If you think that the park will open in 2006 or late 2005 you might be wrong. I heard that the water park is expected to open in late may without delays.

Given the (high!) price of SFGAm's season passes, not too sure how much MORE they can ask to add the waterpark to the SP...

That being said, yesterday the park was REALLY crowded for a Thursday, and a waterpark, separate or included, would help spread the corwds out A LOT. Even at $35M, I expect this waterpark to pay itself off inside of two operating seasons.

Now if they'd only find a home for Shock/Wave, it looked kinda lonesome sitting out there on the hillside without any riders to thrill...CLEARLY the ride is laid out in such a way as to facilitate a move/re-install *somewhere*....

I'm *thisclose* to calling SFGAM the real FLAGSHIP park in the chain...it's THAT good! :)

Wondering how I know how the water park will open in late May without delays? Well the people at six flags are planning their advertising campaign for the water park for when it opens.

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Now the people at Six Flags said that they are making SFGAM one of their more major parks. It already was one of their big parks but they plan to make it bigger. One thing they're doing is adding the water park. But the big question is "Is some of the money in the $90 million capex going to a new attraction at SFGAM?

(And for those of you who don't know the $35 million water park is a seperate thing from the $90 million capex. The alltogether capex is $125 million. Some of you have ignored the topic post and have assumed that the water park is part of the $90 million capex.)

The total capex for 05 is indeed $125 million,now subtract $35 million from that total & it leaves you with $90 million for the remaining parks in the chain.

Now let's subtract the cost of SFGRADV's rocket coaster from the remaining $90 million to determine just how much the remaining parks have to work with,we can rule out SFMM this time around as far as any new coasters are concerned.

I was just at the park today, they are doing some sort of constuction work in the overflow parking lot. They have a couple buldozers out there as well as it looks like all the parking lights are pulled out of the cement and laying on their sides. Also looks like they have portable lights out there for night-time work. The Northern side of the parking lot seemed to look buldozed already with dirt in place of the asfault.

Having the park in the overflow lot seems like a good idea, but by doing this they will eliminate a bunch of parking space. Should be intersting to see how things shape up.

I'm guessing that the park will be by Viper and that they giving the overflow lot a much needed repaving. To me, it makes no sense to have the parks that far apart.

If the water park is in the overflow parking lot wouldn't that create one LONG walk for the employees?

It's not going in the overflow lot.

The overflow lot is being re-done to accomodate more vehicles.

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onceler said:
I was just at the park today, they are doing some sort of constuction work in the overflow parking lot. They have a couple buldozers out there as well as it looks like all the parking lights are pulled out of the cement and laying on their sides. Also looks like they have portable lights out there for night-time work. The Northern side of the parking lot seemed to look buldozed already with dirt in place of the asfault.

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I was there today (Mon), and the half of the entire overflow lot (north west side next to the parking gate) was torn up with all of the asphalt piled up on the grassy knoll behind and next to it. All that was left was a smooth surface of dirt, and major holes (where pipes could go?).

Also the bus parking area (south east side of the lot) had a section that was fenced off and also dug up. But this was a much much smaller area than the overflow lot.

It seems odd about the overflow lot since that is on the other side of the main parking lot road. Unless that section is strictly dug up for pipe purposes and not for the new water park to sit atop.

It seems perfect if the go-carts moved. The entrance to those and the Space Shuttle/SG1 ride is a perfect entrance way. It already seems like an entrance to something more than waht is actually there (maybe that just shows my dissappointment to current attractions in that area).

~marci~