SFGAm riddle

Yeah I think it will done way before open day 2003. I think SW will be down in November and the new coaster up by March.

some things too keep in mind

-they still have a coaster to take down this will probably take 1 month

-they have to remove the old footers and the parking lot under shockwave 2 weeks

-prepare forms for footers and poor footers 2 weeks after they are poored they have to wait at least 30 days for them to cure properly.

sub total 3 months this brings us to january 1st

-new coaster construction time unknown but ill take a guess at 2.5 months

-testing and landscaping another guess at 1 month

total 6.5 months 2 weeks into april

this means that it is possable for six flags to actualy finish the ride before the park opens provided the weather is decent during the winter. if the weather is bad this could add a month or two to the construction time.

hope this helps someone to understand what every one is talking about

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p.s. contrary to popular belief i am not an idiot nor i am i a child.

does any one have any pic up dates on the construction. I f u do, post them or something. Also how many people think the new B&M will NOT be clone of the Superman Ultimate Escape.

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If its done by April I hope its open for Advocate Health Day!

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I doubt the flyer isn't a clone- and if it isn't, than it will be a very close cousin of SFoG's Superman. Remember the popular rumor that their flyer was designed for GAm...

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*** This post was edited by BullGuy on 10/1/2002. ***

http://www.negative-g.net/SFGAM/SFGAM80s/SFGAM80s1.html

Look at the third picture down and tell me where you see any hills. Like I said, there are some *minor* topographical changes in Whizzer's plot of land, but nothing that can't be very easily fixed. In fact, nothing I would expect to require alteration at all.

-Nate

Edit: This is also a good picture to all the space in and around Whizzer (on Whizzer's side of the tracks) that I was talking about previously. That's a lot more than ten feet.

*** This post was edited by coasterdude318 on 10/1/2002. ***

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Coasterdude318.... you were the unlucky chap that got post number "666"... you better pray those breaks on your next coaster actually function correctly!!!

[EDIT] Umm.... uh oh... someone took out a post and made me the unlucky chap. That can't be a good thing! I hope Superman at Worlds of Adventure doesn't overshoot the spike :)

*** This post was edited by DawgByte II on 10/2/2002. ***

I assure you, those hills are taller than they look from that extreme angle. Nothing major, to be sure, but there would definetly be a few feet between the bottoms of the supports and their footers if no alterations to either the supports or the ground were made.

But they're not. :-)

The curve that appears to be "cutting into a hillside" is actually inside a ditch (this can clearly be seen in the link I posted, bottom right-hand corner). There is about as much "terrain" around Whizzer as there is in the rest of the park:

None.

-Nate

coaterdude318: Maybe something's changed since then (unlikely), but that's more than just a ditch. Have you been on the ride? If so, think back to the second drop: to your left, there was a slight rise, and then mostly flat land, possibly slightly sloping away from you. To your right, there was a wall that rose above the top of the train, with solid earth behind it for some distance, testified to both by the fact that every bit of the trees next to you are are also above you, and that if you look, you can see it sloping up. Again, this is not much more than a knob. But it's taller than a coaster train, at least. If you look very carefully at the picture you're talking about, you can see this. But it is heavily obscured by the extreme angle the picture was taken from, and by the fact that the entire thing is covered with trees. The rest of the plot of land undulates slightly too, but this is again hard to see because of the extreme angle.

http://www.negative-g.net/SFGAM/SFGAM2001/SFGAM-2001-2.html

On the last picture on this page (thanks for the site!), you can see how the ground rises up to the right of the train, but not to the left. I assure you, it continues to slope up to the middle of that clump of trees, albeit not on very steep angle. You can also see some small knolls rising up beyond the fence. since while the Whizzer is there, nothing else can be in that spot, those knolls are generally considered part of Whizzer's plot.

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*** This post was edited by (SF)Great American on 10/2/2002. ***

Obviously the land rises there, but like I've been saying all along, it's not by much. It's *nothing* that would affect putting the ride on Shockwave's spot.

-Nate

coasterdude, from going to this park many times i'd *almost* garantee ;) that that water is lower than the land around it, which means that there is elevation change in that plot.

Well, I think that's a given. :-)

However, the supports for footers that would have been in the water wouldn't require any adjusting because since the surface of the water is usually considered "ground level", not the bottom of the pond. That is, normal sized footers aren't poured into the pond; they're extended to rise above the surface of the pond (meaning that the length of the support would be the same whether there was water or grass there).

-Nate

yes the water surface is considered 0 feet, but they footings generally are not much higher 6 inches to a foot above water level. the land is not all at water level + 6-12 inches. So they would still have to deal with the height changes. And using taller footing would look bad and this is the type of coaster that looks are important on since people are looking down at the ground while on the ride.
Did they rip out that road? Or was it just covered with greenery/earth?
I don't think increasing certain footers' heights by 6"-12" is going to make the ride look better or worse. Actually, I'm sure nobody would even notice since footers often vary in size and height anyway. I can't believe how picky everyone is.

Bottom line of my argument is this: moving the flyer from Whizzer's plot to Shockwave's plot is not going to require any new engineering or support adjusting. Both are about as flat as can be.

-Nate

KFC - I believe the road has just been overtaken by the tree's that have grown into the area. The road is still there and it is used to my knowledge.

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and when riding at night, the lights near that road literally blind you. it looks a little bad, but the beauty of the rest of the ride generally makes up for that.

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uh oh, sounds like someone has a case of the mondays.


Ragingusmc said:
Yes you can tell that they are flying coaster supports by the wings painted on them......


No in all honesty aren't there ways to tell if the supports are for a flying coaster or not. (besides the wings, LOL).

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The flyer supports are similar to the inverted ones.. They are F shaped...

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