SF GADV to get rid of their HUSS FRISSBEE, PENDULUM

Well Nate. I never whined about SFGAm lacking flats but lets face it, they do. For a park this size and the number of people that visit this park every year, they could use a few more.

Heck, SFKK has more variety in flats than SFGAm. I was shocked when I visited the Kentucky park this past July and saw numerous flats scattered throughout this park.

Besides all the gossip of rides being removed, relocated, etc., etc., it is looking good that SFGAm will be installing some new rides for 2004. Whether they are new or used is irrelevent IMO. *** Edited 12/21/2003 6:55:01 AM UTC by Chitown***

I also just noticed that none of the texas SF parks have many flatrides, especially compared to SFOG/SFGADV. Take for instance poor old astroworld.

I know they just recieved a shiny new S&S sky swatter, but after that they have one scrambler that's been here since opening day and moved all over the park (runaway rickshaws), one scrambler-like ride Warp2000- anyone know how to define this?), one yo-yo/swing chairs(gunslinger), a wagonwheel trabant, and a carousel. Not much for flats, eh?

Besides, who wants to ride a mediocore little frisbee anyway? Delirium at PKI owns all frisbees! :D

Chitown: My apologies - I didn't mean to suggest that you were whining or whatever. I tend to agree with you that the park could use some good new flats (heck, who am I to complain about new rides?). I was just pointing out to Mr. PinkDoom that *I* wasn't claiming SFGAm "deserved" a Frisbee.

On the contrary, I don't necessarily think SFGAm needs anything right now. There are a lot more flats at GAm that at other SF parks, and people tend to forget that the park got three new flats a few years back.

I *am* pleased that it sounds like SFGAm is getting something new to enjoy next year, but I'm not claiming the park deserves or requires something new. Similarly, I'm not complaining about you or anyone else whining about needing rides, because that's not what I see going on here.

-Nate (who agrees that Delirium is good, but can't touch a well-run KMG Afterburner)

"Deserves"?

Have I become so jaded with my views on capitalism that that word doesn't even come onto my vocabulary....guess so. Fact is, it appears that the Frisbee IS leaving GAdv...and there does appear to be quite the pull towards Chitown....

That being said, I have not ridden Delirium, but I agree with Nate on the Afterburner....right up there with KBF's Tumbler (RIP) in my book....

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coasterdude318 said:
Excuse me? I'm not the one saying SFGAm "deserves" the Frisbee. In fact, nowhere in this thread did I say SFGAM should, would, or could get the Frisbee. I also never whined about the number of flats at SFGAm. I just corrected a previous poster on the number of flats at the park.

You quote me above and say "Face it. SFOG deserves it more." I never said anything to the contrary, or even that SFGAm "deserves" it at all. I'm well aware of the flat ride deficiency at SFoG.

-Nate

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Hint:joke.Hence :).

Hey , I'm not tryin' to start something.:)

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I must comment though on your good arguing skills. You're one of the few people I've ever known who actually presents real points and doesn't annoy me.

Warp 2000 at Astroworld is a Huss Troika. Sure they could use a few more spinning rides, but where do you put them without removing exisitng rides? AW is a very small park by Six Flags standards. The only thing I could see them removing is the former cave that went along with Batman the Escape. There is one Texas park that has a fair amount of flat rides, and that is Fiesta Texas. They have a kick-butt Frisbee (much better than the Great Adventure program), a Topspin, Chance Chaos, Chance Wipeout, Enterprise, Morgan teacup-style ride called The Hustler, and last (but not least), is a Skyscraper (extra charge of course).

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rOLLocOASt said:
Black7 - Simple and honest. Pendulum is going away.

Pinkdoommonkeyguy - SFoG may "need" it, but they don't deserve it. Face it, flagship parks will always get more stuff, and quite frankly SFoG isn't one of them. Sure it's one of my favorite SF parks, but I'd bet that their attendance doesn't touch SFGAm.

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Actually, despite GAm getting a new coaster and OG getting nothing, attendance at OG this year was 5th among the Six Flags chain and Great America was 4th. We have a grand total of two regular flat rides: Wheelie and Looping Starship.

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coasterdude318 said:
That's because the Huss Condor wasn't there within the last thirteen years. It was there for one year - 1989.

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That would be incorrect. I didn't ride it until 1990, the year Shockwave (now known as Batman the Escape at SFAW) was introduced.

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Michael19887 said:

Actually, despite GAm getting a new coaster and OG getting nothing, attendance at OG this year was 5th among the Six Flags chain and Great America was 4th. .

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Technically you could say that SFOT and SFGAm are tied for 3rd. The estimated numbers for both parks are so close its basically a wash.

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Intamin Fan said:

That would be incorrect. I didn't ride it until 1990, the year Shockwave (now known as Batman the Escape at SFAW) was introduced.

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Yeah, I guess you're correct. It looks like the Condor was at SFGAdv from 1988-1991.

-Nate

Hasn't this thread solved it already? You get the frisbee , we get the(but it must work) jump. There. Deal. Done.

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Just what is a woodaver?

Well great! Soon Great Adventure will be reduced to a park full of coasters (which seldom operate) and little else, much like it's LA cousin.

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Antuan said:
Well great! Soon Great Adventure will be reduced to a park full of coasters (which seldom operate) and little else, much like it's LA cousin.

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Actually, Great Adventure is one of the few parks that actually has most of the coasters operating all the time. With the exception of Chiller, (though one side usually operates everyday), and Viper, which has some serious problems, though we did see it operating pretty regularly, every other coaster is open all the time.

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coasterdude318 said:

SFGAm has a fair number of flat rides (a whole lot more than what Turbo listed). What's missing is newer, modern flats. While a Frisbee would be nice, I'd much rather have an KMG/Chance product.

The full list of flats at SFGAm: Sky Trek Tower, Hometown Fun Machine, Triple Play, Orbit, Chubasco, River Rocker, Trailblazer, Whirligig, Ricochet, Fiddler's Fling, East River Crawler, Condor, Columbia Carousel, and Rue Le Dodge. Then there are four water rides, antique cars, a drop ride, a simulator, a train ride, and a number of children's rides. Like I said, there's a good number of rides, but modern flats are lacking.

-Nate *** Edited 12/20/2003 11:37:06 PM UTC by coasterdude318***

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I did forget some, thanks for filling in the rest. However, they still lack in new flats as you said, and also the removal of 3 in the past 2-3 years (cajun cliffhanger, Skywhirl and haybailer, which I believe it was called, might have been haymaker, I was young) They definetely need them, especially if newer rides they put in are going to be down most of the season...DejaVu

I go to Gadv. every year, and if there's one thing they don't have a problem with, it's the coasters being open. Sure, Viper has sometimes been closed, but is that really a bad thing?

Does anybody have any info on a possible time when SFGAm could announce thier 2004 plans? When did they usually announce the next years plans?

2,575,000 with a new ride-SFGaM

2,100,000 with nothing-SFoG

I dont see how you can say SFoG comes nowhere near SFGam and is not a flagship park. Seems like both are on the "first tier" of Six Flags parks to me. Lets just quitch B**ching at each other and just be happy our home park isn't Elitch Gardens ;).

Is SFoG a seasonal park...?

yes.

SFoG is a seasonal park with one of the shortest offseasons I can think of...

...this year they closed Nov. 8 for the 2003 season, and they open March 6, 2004. Not that I'm complaining! :)

And they might even have something new for us to ride next year as well.