What's with the Cedar Fair s**tstorm the last couple of days?
RatherGoodBear said:
Maybe El Paso's going to get a matching set. Arranged the right way, they would look like a pair of bookends.
Not quite. They will be placed side by side and race!! THey will have the only racing drop ride, and a light will declare the winner like Lightning Racer!
My suggestion was to attatch the two brake sections and put springs on the bottom of the cars. It would be amuzing to watch the two cars smash into each other and spring back! *** Edited 8/15/2005 11:55:02 PM UTC by Peabody***
Oh well, I just hope CP puts SOMETHING where it is and doesn't leave it another open area, because if a new flat or something could be squeezed in there, it would benefit from being right at the entrance and would be something else that could keep people toward the front of the park like they attempted to do with maXair.
coasterqueenTRN said:An old rackety Intamin drop and a S&S Tower can both live in harmony.
Yes and a great example is at SFOT. Wildcatter runs pretty consistently throughout the year even though it seems to breakdown everyday for a while. It is still a fun ride (always lean forward moving back to the lift though - it will save you some pains).
Too bad for CP/GL, I enjoyed my laps on Demon Drop and on SFoG's Freefall.
Schwarzkopf shuttle loops...The most possible fun in 36 seconds.
Well perhaps they are going to use that land that DemDrop uses as well as the parking lot to the immediate right of the front gate for a new area of flats and/or coaster.
I think the simplest explanation is that the Powers That Be decided to rid themselves of these---GL's has been a pain in the tuckas, and CPs doesn't exactly get huge ridership, from what I can tell.
However, the footprint isn't *that* small thanks to the runout, and there's a picnic pavillion right next to it. And, given the most recent Soak City expansion, we know how much CP worries about keeping those.
Personally, Im glad this pair are on their way out. No one really rides them, the cost of parts are getting worse, and they just aren't all that much fun... at least not to me. I'd rather see Geauga's go before CP's, but its time. DD is 23 years old you know!
I'll have to take one farwell lap on DD before the season's out, but don't you think a Screamin' Swing and a Floorless-Top-Spin with water effects would look great there? Unless they build another new "big" ride further down the road in the employee parking lot and such .
~~~~Coaster Lover~~~~~~~~~~
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Then there is the question of hydes, i knew that was a goner for a while. I told people that there was no point in working on it and putting all that money into it, when it was not operating strongly. Call me wierd but Geauga Lakes ride expansion might just start there.
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Lord Gonchar said:
What I find interesting is that among a bunch of enthusiasts (often known for love of 'tradition' and preserving rides for historical reasons), that these are so quickly being dismissed as obsolete.Which is it? Should the old be replaced by the new or should these rides be preserved as testament to the progress the industry has made?
Good point, and one that I had to think about before responding.
To me, preservation is about passion- the more "warm fuzzies" I feel about something, the more I want to preserve that "something". I'm a big fan of wood coasters (duh!), not to mention classic flat rides, cars and buildings. When it comes to preserving those things, I am very passionate and will do what I can to see to it that an effort is made. If something is historically significant for one reason or another, that also makes it important.
As for a first-gen Intamin Freefall, I have never been passionate about that type of ride. I've ridden plenty of them but none have ever "done it" for me. While I can appreciate that they are the forerunners to today's modern drop towers, I don't see them as rides that need to be preserved. Of course, others may feel differently, and I suppose that is what makes this hobby so interesting. As the old saying goes, "one man's junk is another man's treasure."
I'm not saying that I advocate the removal of these rides, I'm not saying I want to see them twisted into scrap metal. I guess I'm just saying that because those rides never did anything for me, I'm not going to get all bent over them being removed.
Am I making any sense?
Never was a big fan, but I remember the huge lines back in the day. I am glad also that I managed to get a "last chance" ride on it this season.
cyberdman
Rob Ascough said:
Am I making any sense?
You're making perfect sense, but that's exactly my problem with the whole thing - the selective bandwagoning.
It doesn't really bother me either way, I just have this thread stuck in my head.
It just seemed odd to me that someone who I've seen be so vocal about the need to preserve certain rides/coasters and increase 'awarenes' of these situations would be one of the first respondees with a comment like:
"Somehow I doubt many tears will be shed over this one."
I'm not trying to make this a debate or fight and while my comment was sort of indirectly aimed your general direction, I appreciate the honest answer.
Enthusiasts only care about the history or the rides that matter to them or affect them personally. It's a personal pursuit.
I just found the contrast in your reply here vs your replies in the thread I linked to a little odd.
In fact I always think it's odd when people get into such an uproar over an amusement ride and I still stand by my comments in that other thread, "I can't think of a single ride that I give a crap enough about to feel the need to 'save' it."
I now understand (thanks to your honest reply) that it is a very personal matter, but now what I don't understand is why the people on the 'save' side of these discussions get so heated when others tell them to get over it.
Then again, maybe I answered myself - It's a very personal issue, they take it personally.
I don't even know where I'm going with this. I guess in the end I find it strange that people can get so heated when they want to save a ride (and I'm not just pointing at you, Rob - the PKI flyers and other threads come to mind), but can't see the other side... that someone might just not give a second thought or an ounce of care to it.
In fact, I kind of find it exciting when the old is destroyed for the new. It's progress in motion. While others get all warm and fuzzy about what used to be, I tend to be more exciteable when pondering what is about to be. I dig the possibilities, I guess. :)
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