Report says Cedar Point building a B&M wing coaster for 2013

I'm bummed about them removing more family friendly attractions - Disaster Eyesore Transport is understandable but removing Space Spiral, really? Is that absolutely necessary? The new roller coaster does sounds pretty cool though. I just hope it has separate load and unload stations.

$25m seems cheap for a B&M coaster, ride removal and redesigned entrance. The area near Disaster Transport will require some design as well.

So they just skipped right over the flying coaster. I find that interesting.

8.3, I've always been under the impression that the $25m figure was just for the ride and general area/station/footings, but the rest was above and beyond.

I thought I read somewhere that removals, moving dirt, theming, soil testing, pavers/concrete for the new walkways and everything could almost match the price of the ride when all is said and done.

ApolloAndy said:

So they just skipped right over the flying coaster. I find that interesting.

Likewise, but I also find it nice. I'd much rather sit down than lie down. On a coaster.

Flyers suck. I'll never understand the fascination with them. The novelty wore off for me the moment I got off of one.

I love the Vekomas and Manta. The S:UF's I could do without. (Still no Tatsu).

Whether or not it's a great ride, it's still incredibly flashy and given that CP invested in a stand up and an impulse, I would think a flyer would have done pretty well.

Manta is amazing, and if you haven't ridden it, could change your thoughts on the B&M version.

I'm surprised they're taking out Space Spiral, considering its (what I would imagine) relative ease to build around. They really couldn't extend a curve to go around it (which would be cool) or shorten/change an element to avoid it? Or I wonder if this is more to do with maintenance costs than really needing to go for the new ride?

maXairMike said:
Manta is amazing, and if you haven't ridden it, could change your thoughts on the B&M version.

Expecting Cedar Point to build something as well designed as Manta is a mistake. Disaster Transport is what happens... :)

Awesome!

I am one of the only people that I know who really enjoys DT. It's a shame they can't fix that ride.

As for Space Spiral, it offers a relaxing ride with an amazing view, and I will hate to see it go. I wish they could move it to another area of the park. Too bad.

25 Million sounds like not enough money for a record-breaking wing coaster that will be larger and offer a longer ride than other wing coasters. Perhaps their is a mistake in the numbers somewhere?

I like the idea of the ride zooming around the park entrance. Sounds exciting!

This will get me back to Cedar Point after many years.

There's already a flyer only 200 miles away at Kings Island, which is also owned by Cedar Fair. That, coupled with wing coasters being the "new thing" probably played a major part in the decision.

Also, don't underestimate Cedar Point going with B&M, considering the downtime issues they have with Intamin rides. It deserves a mention; trust me.

There is more information/opinion in the Register's "Belaboring the Point" blog at http://www.sanduskyregister.com/sandusky/belaboring-point/cedar-point/blog-cedar-points-wing-coaster-answers-enthusiasts-prayer.

From the memo, it sounds as if the $25 million is for the coaster, removal of the two rides and changes to the front/entrance area to accommodate the new coaster. But obviously things are subject to change.

You are mistaken, fine Sir. Kings Island does not have a Flyer style coaster... Yet...

While it pains me that the Space Spiral is on the hit list, knowing what it cost to refurbish the one at Seaworld San Diego I can fathom why they chose not too. Since Von Roll was no longer in the business of building them ( the business had been sold and was only interested in building sky lifts. The new management no longer supported any of the other attractions that had been built) Seaworld contracted out the construction of a new cabin to a Japanese firm, and as I recall the cost was well into six figures.

Isn't Firehawk, at Kings Island, a Vekoma flying coaster? Either way, my point simply is a flying-type coaster isn't that far away at a Cedar Point sister park.

Firehawk at Roller Coaster DataBase: http://rcdb.com/3793.htm

I'd argue that the B&M flyer going AROUND the existing Space Spiral would make for a more exciting flyer and some enhanced views from the Spiral. Taking out that *and* DT right after taking out Wildcat really seems to be constricting the all-ages types of rides that grandma and grandpa might rides *with* their grandkids...

I understand the removal of DT - but it doesn't make me happy....I'm a big fan of the bobsleds.

edit: Dutchman - the new manufacturer, etc., might cost quite a bit of money...but it DOES seem to draw a pretty continuous flow of people, it's cool in there, and it's a really nice break from waiting in lines all day to ride coasters (plus there's nice picture opportunities up there!). Just the other side of the coin, as it were...

No argument there, when it's up and running it seems to do well. Perhaps there is a new replacement in the future? Those who say that Windseeker is a suitable replacement ignore the fact that there are those that would ride the Space Spiral but won't go near Windseeker. The issues with SS needed to be addressed awhile back and for whatever reason they were not, and now we are at this juncture in the history of the Point.

DT was fun but pretty old and outdated, and Space Spiral has been redundant for as long as it's been next to the ferris wheel. I'd love to see how they rework that area, hopefully they can integrate maXair more smartly into some new landscaping.

Really great to see CP adding another meat-and-potatoes thrill coaster, and a B&M to boot. Guess they're starting to clean house of some of the older coasters at the park, with Wildcat also gone now. Which'll be next to leave?

Hopefully Mean Streak.

LostKause said:

You are mistaken, fine Sir. Kings Island does not have a Flyer style coaster... Yet...

??? Huh?

I guess I've just been imagining that red/grey coaster next to FOF all these years ;-)