Rampage repair could be costly at VisionLand

That's a big difference in cost!!

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BMCOASTER

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I thought a brand new CCI was running around $2.5 million (before they went away). I mean, couldn't you buy a similar quality GG woodie for that much, especially since they haven't made a name for themselves yet?

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GCI has always been better than CCI, no one wanted to take notice, though. I really hope that GCI gets a lot more recognition with this project.

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-Kyle Brylczyk
KoRn - Untouchables

I really, REALLY liked CCI coasters, and I think GG has "inherited" the rep as far as design and such....therefore they don't need to *esatblish* a name IMO. I am afraid that the GCI bid WAS in line with the amount of repair needed, and that TPP may sacrifice some of the ride quality (based solely on reports, mind you) in an effort to save some money....hey, it's not an insubstantial amount of cash we're talking about....hoping I get to ride Rampage in all its original glory...

Wow.....sounds like those politicians ran Rampage like a $600 used car.

But I still have to wonder what $2.5 million would include. New trains? Alterations in the support structure that would effectively make it a GCI coaster? It just seems mighty high.

-'Playa

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The CPlaya 100--6 days, 9 parks, 47 coasters, 2037 miles and a winner.....LoCoSuMo.

This sounds like GCI wanted to do some re-profiling as well as just general track maintenence- Rampage was in quite good shape back in 2001- I have a hard time believing that a rehab that just involves doing trackwork would cost 2.5 mil.

Im guessing that GCI gave an "ultimately high" estimate ecause they don't want to or have time to work on it right now.

I have a very hard time imagining that two years of sitting idle could have caused Rampage to fall into a state of disrepair so severe that it needs that much work. Are they replacing the entire structure and track?

Yeah, GCI wouldn't want business. Who needs money?

GCI does what CCI never did... estimate high so you actually make a buck and don't end up eating the cost.

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Jeff - Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
"There's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, when it's all in your mind. You gotta let go." - Ghetto, Supreme Beings of Leisure

....but Jeff, doesn't that cut down on the number of bids you actually WIN...ROFL....

True enough, the GCI bid does seem HIGH to me as well, but then again, I haven't been ON this ride. Also, it has been sitting idle, which IMO is probably worse for the coaster than running....*hopeful* that they'll come up with a solution that keeps the coaster in GOOD shape, but isn't SO expensive that it causes other rides/attractions to "do without"...it'd be a shame to get the coaster back for one season and have it be the reason for the park's ultimate demise....

Well said Jeff..

Look who still is around.. GCI or CCI???

Funny how so many people here just assume to understand the bussines world. They don't make coasters because whiney kids on the WWW want them. They make them because they like making them and to MAKE MONEY!!.

No mater who you are.. Your bussiness is there to make $$.

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Why doesnt ProParks talk to Gravity Group about this? They could offer some insight seeing as they were some of the people who designed the ride. I would be willing to bet that ProParks does not even know Gravity Group exists.

By the way, GCI DOES want to do some reprofiling. Exactly what is not certain, although I have heard from other employees that they want to change the angle of the track at the bottom of the first drop. *** This post was edited by Bosshawk on 11/5/2002. ***

The fact is that Rampage is a wooden coaster. It is expected that wooden coasters are inspected and worked on every morning to keep them in good shape.

This one was not looked at for over a year. No weak wood replaced, no track work, no nails hammered in. I think that pretty much explains the cost.

Coaster 131, exactly what makes GCI coasters "better" than CCI coasters? From my experience, they both seemed to know their stuff pretty well. GCI coasters are more expensive for several reasons, none of which involve one company being "better" than the other.

Heck, take a look at the CCI-dominated polls and I really don't see where you get any impression that GCI rides are "better".

Personally, I think GCI was wise to spit out a high estimate just in case there was an unforseen problem, but I wouldn't expect repairs to cost nearly that much. Without trains constantly running through the course, there's a lot less wear and tear on the wood, the track work, etc. I'm sure costs will be similar to that most seasonal parks spend every spring to get their wooden coasters in "safe" running condition.

-Nate

I would expect that GG may end up doing the refurbishment on this coaster. Their site indicates that they do reprofiles and the like and I would assume that since this is one of their own (in a way)they would like to do it. Besides it is obvious that GCI is not going to be doing it and that really only leaves GG, S&S, and Coasterworks.

Actually, CCI was one of several companies asked to design SOB. CCI gave an rediculosly high bid since they didn't want to design it in the first place (they didn't want to engineer the loop)

So, the lowest bidder got it.
See what Im getting at?

GG does not build coasters. They just design them. They would not be involved with a retracking of Rampage. Coasterworks or GCI are the more likely candidates. Oh, and the trains for Rampage have been sitting outside the whole time. I imagine the estimate includes some new trains or the refurbishment of the two.

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Rampage's speculated condition aside GCII's customers over the last year (Terra Mitica, Port Aventura, Canobie, Magic Springs and Dania Beach) all seem to be very happy with the job the company did and did not balk at their estimate. While I can't say what state Rampage is in today, it seems that GCII has established a reputable reputation for retracking/reworking coasters in the past year.

Adam
http://history.amusement-parks.com

With such a high estimation, to me, seems like GCI is making a stab at CCI's work.

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Jes
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