PKD Park Survey

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:41 AM
My favorite would be the tilt coaster(whatever manufacturer) just because Its a new concept, and I'd make a special trip to ride something new and unique.

I know that I am going to p*ss people off by saying this, but what is so special about a B&M invert? I'd rather ride a new type of coaster. I am not a big B&M fan. Plus Volcano is a much better than what B&M would build for the park anyway. Heck I'd take the Italian Job over the B&M.

I actually enjoy their surveys. I wish more parks would do this. We are the consumer, and taking our ideas in consideration is always a good thing.

*** Edited 2/16/2005 7:00:10 AM UTC by Coasterfantom2***

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:35 AM
^^Same here,I was not interested in either the waterpark or childrens area makeovers which is why I opted for the coasters & flats instead.... now I'm not a huge V:TBC fan which is why I went with the TG:JC concept(would be nice to finally have a B&M close enough to ride).

The Delerium would make a fitting replacement for berserker,I hate that thing with a passion.

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:16 AM
I suppose it all makes sense- if Paramount is aiming to be the "poor person's Disney" (and it certainly seems that way), the ride concepts on the survey are certainly appropriate. Still, I can't help but feel that the park is trying to sell people on the their existing ride concepts so a case can be built for them to be cloned throughout the chain instead of asking people what they really want.
Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:02 PM
People don't know what they really want. John Q. Public is not an expert on amusement technology. They don't know what all is available either. They do know what films they recognize, so naturally those are appropriate questions to ask.
Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:44 PM
John Q. Public knows next to nothing about amusement technology but they do know that Tower of Terror is a drop ride and Flight of Fear is a roller coaster. They also know whether they want a carousel, a spinning ride or some Hollywood simulator. But I do get what you're saying...

Maybe the question is, why those movies? Seems to me that Paramount has a lot of movies that are more high-profile than Italian Job and Tomb Raider.

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:04 PM
Which movies they use I'm sure depends on how they want to tie in a ride (obviously), but also the legal arrangements they have with the producers and anyone else who has a financial interest in the film.
Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:16 PM
Of course some movies lend themselves better to certain types of rides (I can't imagine a launched family coaster being themed to Titanic) but I would think that there are higher-profile movies than Italian Job. But I'm sure there are lots of legal things to deal with and maybe that makes it impossible to consider certain films. Maybe the movies that tank at the box office are easier and cheaper to negotiate?
Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:35 PM
Perhaps the converse is true..

Theme the ride to a lesser-performing movie and try to build excitement for the movie to increase DVD and merchandise sales.

EDIT: spelling/grammar

*** Edited 2/16/2005 7:36:19 PM UTC by dannerman***

Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:52 PM
I'm sure there are marketing reasons behind it all but like Jeff said, I think it's mostly a matter of what's available and at what price.
Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:45 AM
Why can't they have learned their lesson with Wayne's World. Paramount is what has sh-- on this park. EASE up on theming that won't last.
Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:30 AM
Why make lasting themes? Ever heard Chris Rock's tirade about why Cadilliac can't make a car that the bumper doesn't fall off when there's metal that can survive atmospheric re-entry? Why would they? The theme gives out after 5-7 years, and then they have a not-too-old ride with an outdated theme; spend a couple mil, remove the theme, install a new one and viola! New ride! Now, go back to that survey and read the descriptions of Soundwave. Get it?

It's a brilliant way to cheaply have "new" rides.

Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:20 AM
Sounds like what old parks used to do with their darkrides- slap some new paint on them, alter a scene or two and there you have it: instant new ride!
Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:57 PM
This survey now applies to all Paramount parks, not just PKD.
Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:06 PM
I just saw Skycaptain and the World of Tommorow, which had some Paramount money behind it. I think there's some interesting possiblities there (not that I'm saying it was the greatest movie). I think it would work well as one of the 3-D motion films.

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