In the final comments box I congratulated them on the flight of fear restraint changes.
But who knows, maybe all they want is feedback from the enthusiasts.
I do like the Top Gun thing though, I think KD could use a good ride like that.
Josh *** Edited 2/15/2005 11:38:50 AM UTC by J Bird***
If they let people give suggestions from scratch, everyone would ask for Inverted 500 foot tall dueling dive machines through fire.
No, only a bunch of silly enthusiasts are going to ask for that. The majority of people would probably list some ideas of their own that may be completely different from what the park thinks people want.
If you give a person ten different kinds of steaks to choose from, they'll probably pick one. But that doesn't help if they wanted a chicken dinner in the first place.
If you wanted chicken and the entire menu was steak, you'd probably go to another restaurant ... sorry Rob, they're not going to rebuild the Idora Wildcat, or whatever other classic wooden coaster you and probably others would suggest, even if you asked. It's not flashy, it's not sensory overload, and most of all, wasn't Paramount burned big time by their last wooden coaster project (SoB)? After that disaster, I'd be surprised if Paramount built a wooden coaster for many years ...
The track is shaped like a large curved L. It is pivoted at the centre point so when loading the track would look like _|, once lifting starts it would raise the part with the train on to the vertical like so |_, lining the now low point of the track with the rest of the circuit. The train would then be released to complete the circuit. In other words, what was the station track when you boarded has now become the top of the first drop.
Hope that helps. I'll try to find the info later but I'm pretty sure it in one of the IAAPA issues.
*** Edited 2/15/2005 2:49:23 PM UTC by invy***
*edit* Found it! It was a Chance Morgan design, shown at IAAPA in 2002. Says the rest of the ride would be very twisted with a new design of train to negotiate it. Sounds like it could be fun.
*** Edited 2/15/2005 3:16:53 PM UTC by invy***
I'm sure that all of Paramount's suggested ideas would work well within the limitations of their master plan for the park, and that's fine. All I'm saying is that I'm sick of hearing people say that Paramount parks do nothing more than respond to their guests' comments because that's not the case when the comments they can make have already been pre-selected.
I work in marketing, and if you want true results, multiple choice is not the way to go.
But I think that Paramount has done an excellent job of creating a survey that allows people to give them opinions, but within reason. Think about most of the newbies to this site, that's what most of the GP out there that would care enough to fill out that survey is like, and they would all suggest the 500 ft double inverted standup twister tilt mega dive launch LIM blah blah happy coaster, if they even took the time to think up a creative ride they'd like to see. This way, the creativity's done, all you have to do is select the one that appeals to you most. Their sample size would be so much less if it required the work of creating your own ride, it'd probably make the survey data irrelevant. 99.9% of people aren't going to take the time to come up with their own ride from scratch to propose for the park.
But, if you do have specific ideas and happen to fall within that 0.1% (which I would guess all participate on this site!) that's why the boxes are on each page for comments. You could suggest that they modify one of their ideas to something else, or even give them something completely different at the end. That's where the variability comes in. But, so that they can capture a few more people, they give them the pre-made choices that fit right in with their plans.
Again, you work in marketing, so professionally, I realize you have more experience, but my limited exposure, and as a "consumer", I think it's an excellent survey, very well done (grammar and spelling aside) and allows for a lot of varied opinions - key word, a lot.
I went so far as to describe the ride as a floorless above rail looping coaster similar to Medusa at SFGRADV so they'd get at least an insight into the type of ride I was suggesting to be designed to center around that particular theme.
Hopefully it'll pay off although I'd certainly ride the invert if it gets built as well.
I can understand why a survey like this works on a number of levels- my problem is that the survey asks people to vote on attractions with a common theme: movies. The park doesn't take into much consideration that not all guests are looking for ultra-expensive, high-profile rides themed to Italian Job, Tomb Raider and a bunch of other movies that are either too old for people to care about or movies that people didn't care much for in the first place.
It's nice that Paramount gives you the option to add your own comments and suggestions but in the end, the company is really polling people on one kind of capital expenditure when in fact that are many alternatives out there. It's great that guests are playing an integral role in which "blockbuster" attraction gets built but is a blockbuster attraction what people were asking for? Who's to say?
But I like your suggestion better, the wood at PKD is plentiful enough, just needs more LOVE...:)
Also, I thought the question at the very end about your preferred balance of thrills to theme was a good question.
The only real problem I had with the survey was the constant claim that they could make the ride the best of it's kind and unlike anything else anywhere, ever, when half of their rides were clones from other Paramount parks anyway?
On the subject of theming:is it really all that important any way? I mean you aren't able to see much scenery while moving at 50 plus MPH,but it certainly helps with the wait in line to have a themed queue to go along with the attraction you're about to ride.
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