Other companies contacted to build MF

Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:54 AM
I am just wondering what other companies other than Intamin were contacted to build Millenium Force. I have heard that B&M was actually CP's first chioce. Does anyone know why Intamin was the chosen company?

Thanks.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:00 AM
intaman is a less expensive coaster company then B&M so.......
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:22 AM
Actually, B&M turned it down because they thought it was too tall, so Intamin was contracted
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:23 AM
Thats exactly what I haerd.
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:34 AM
I find it hard to believe that Cedar Point would choose Intamin over B&M because they wanted to save a few bucks. They already have 3 B&M's at the park already, and I am sure they still have a great relationship. Also, CP spares no expense when it comes to world class attractions.
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:37 AM
3 B&M's? I can only think of Raptor and Mantis. What is the 3rd?
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:46 AM
My bad Chitown, there are only 2. I was including Iron Dragon, but forgot that it was Arrow.
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:05 AM
I had HEARD (hate rumors, but until the parks join cb, it's all we've got sometimes) that CP had a three-coaster deal signed with B&M...is any other CF park getting a B&M, is that a bogus rumor, what ARE the facts...
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 9:08 AM
Morgan was also contacted, from what I understand. Intamin ultimately put a better deal on the table and was more willing to work on the wheel issue, though. They guaranteed to work with CP until a wheel was developed that could withstand the continuous high speeds.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:08 AM
gatorwoodie, that is a bogus rumor which many people seem to believe.  Parks don't make set coaster deals for the future, they get what they want when they want to.  They are under no contract to buy anything from anyone.
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 10:41 AM
Thanks force 312...Instead of a rumors page, what we really need is a rumor-control page...LOL.
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:27 PM
Would the cable lift hill have anything to do with there choice.
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:39 PM
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:49 PM
they probably chose Intamin because of the cable lift system and magnetic brakes
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:57 PM
Yes, The needed the lift steep. And the only way was cable lift system. Thats because on land restrictions.
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:40 PM
P,us you think B&M would have made a first drop that steep
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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:59 PM
It probably has to do with a combination of all those, but the main difference between companies is of Intamin's cheepness and super strong track structure.

I don't care what you say, but I know Cedar Point would rather have spent 25 million than 30-35 million that they would have had to pay B&M. Heck, Mantis cost just 8 million less than MF, and it's much, much smaller (in height and length).

With any other company, there is not track shape selections like with Intamin. If there is tons of stress on a certain ares of track, or if there has to be a lack of supports, they can use the box track. With less stress and more supports, you can use the traingular track, and with very little stress, and very close supports, you can choose the flat track. To me, this made Intamin a real winner for the selection as the builder.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:17 PM
The ride is built and it'll stand for years to come. There's no going back now.

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Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:03 AM
For the last time, there never was and never will be any kind of 3-coaster deal with B&M. That was some enthusiast's fantasy. It wouldn't make sense.

Word on the street is that B&M was asked to give a proposal, but they didn't want to build something that tall. I also heard that Morgan may not have made an offer due to the involvement in Steel Dragon, simply because they didn't have the resources to do both. I'm not sure I believe that one.

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Wednesday, August 29, 2001 2:19 PM
It is my personal opinion that cost, wind, and overall ride experience ruled out everyone but Intamin.

Morgan's track is fat, bulky, and look how much it cost to build Steel Dragon. More than twice as much as Millennium Force. In addition, all of Morgan's coasters have turned out to be, well quite simply, similar to Magnum XL-200. Cedar Point has stated they didn't want another Magnum.

I find it ironic that B&M wouldn't want to go up to the 300 ft. level. After all, they brought about many genius coaster rides, including Stand-Ups, Inverted, and Floorless coasters. What, they couldn't add another 90 feet to Raging Bull? The only reason I can think of is the wind forces. Or maybe the lift hill. I still think B&M could have used a wheel drive system like on Hulk, just toned down.

Which leaves Intamin. Cost effective, different ride experience (than Magnum), a feasible way of getting the cars up to 310 feet, and capable of withstanding winds gusts.
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