Next big thing on the horizon for IoA
I agree that a Hyper (or Giga) would not fit into IoA. I think it would stick way too far above everything else in the park and therefore intrude on the theming and general theme appeal. I love hypers, I just don't feel IoA needs one at all. Leave that to SeaWorld.
Now, regarding the Seizmic coaster, I would love to see one of those. However, just like a hyper, not at Islands. They already have a Pteranodon/Pteradactyl themed ride in Pteranodon Flyers, why would you want to have two in the same park, let alone the same themed area? As well, I think Seizmic is best to be used as a dueler/racer, and they already have Dragons next Island down, as well. Therefore, I think that installation would be futile, too.
In my opinion, I feel what IoA really could use is a Dive Machine or Wooden coaster. They could theme a Dive Machine really well. I thought a wooden coaster would be *perfect* for the open area between Jurassic Park and Lost Continent, before they built Unicorn, but now if they put a wooden coaster in, it would clutter that area too much with coasters, and I don't think that would be good for IoA.
So in the end, I say they should go for a Dive Machine and drop (get it?) that sucker in between JP and Toon Lagoon. Possibly wrap it around the back-end of the River Adventure's sore thumb of a building.
Just don't get your hopes up for a hyper or jeep adventure.
Also...Katanga is 165ft, not 200ft...
-Steve
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Track Record: 76 #1 Wood: The Legend #1 Steel: Fire Dragon
2001 Cheetah Rides: 108 and Counting *** This post was edited by ioaddict33 on 7/17/2001. ***
Now, regarding the Seizmic coaster, I would love to see one of those. However, just like a hyper, not at Islands. They already have a Pteranodon/Pteradactyl themed ride in Pteranodon Flyers, why would you want to have two in the same park, let alone the same themed area? As well, I think Seizmic is best to be used as a dueler/racer, and they already have Dragons next Island down, as well. Therefore, I think that installation would be futile, too.
In my opinion, I feel what IoA really could use is a Dive Machine or Wooden coaster. They could theme a Dive Machine really well. I thought a wooden coaster would be *perfect* for the open area between Jurassic Park and Lost Continent, before they built Unicorn, but now if they put a wooden coaster in, it would clutter that area too much with coasters, and I don't think that would be good for IoA.
So in the end, I say they should go for a Dive Machine and drop (get it?) that sucker in between JP and Toon Lagoon. Possibly wrap it around the back-end of the River Adventure's sore thumb of a building.
Just don't get your hopes up for a hyper or jeep adventure.
Also...Katanga is 165ft, not 200ft...
-Steve
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Track Record: 76 #1 Wood: The Legend #1 Steel: Fire Dragon
2001 Cheetah Rides: 108 and Counting *** This post was edited by ioaddict33 on 7/17/2001. ***
i've heard this segrams selling ilands of adventure to cedar fair alot lately. and i was thinking they own alot of land down there. so what if there not selling there park, what if there just selling empty land to cedar fair, cause IOA is on top of the world right now.
look orlando is ruled by theme parks, hell theme parks made that town. so i think if universal or disney or anyone else wanted somthing 200ft+ they will get it. but they won't caue that isn't there style, if they get anything new it will be some kinda heavly themed ride.
This is a quote from Earl on the other board. My jaw just about dropped when I read it. Thanks Earl for the info.
"The 200 ft. limit is a zoning limitation from the City of Orlando for the area that Universal is located. Doom is 199 ft tall for a federal reason. The FAA requires aircraft warning lights at 200 ft and above. The creative minds did not want the Doom towers to be a focal point of the park by getting your attention from those lights atop the towers."
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Robin Fox - "I see Stars, Can You See Them Too?"
"The 200 ft. limit is a zoning limitation from the City of Orlando for the area that Universal is located. Doom is 199 ft tall for a federal reason. The FAA requires aircraft warning lights at 200 ft and above. The creative minds did not want the Doom towers to be a focal point of the park by getting your attention from those lights atop the towers."
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Robin Fox - "I see Stars, Can You See Them Too?"
Tower of Terror is the same way, Disney didn't want flashing lights on top of the hotel ruining the theme.
I thought the general word was the huge B&M flying coaster....
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The day that I spend more time analyzing the rides than screaming my head off like a moron is the day that I hope someone will kick my in the love sausage and tell me not to be a moron. - Jeff
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The day that I spend more time analyzing the rides than screaming my head off like a moron is the day that I hope someone will kick my in the love sausage and tell me not to be a moron. - Jeff
robvia said:
"The FAA requires aircraft warning lights at 200ft and above."
Then why does the Hulk have them? Exactly what is the story with this? Is there an airport nearby or what?
A while back there were rumors of a B&M Hyper/Giga. Then again they're just rumors. In JP would make for nice landscaping & theming. Name to be "Jurassic Park ///." Just kidding.
What about the rumored JP ride/coaster that ends with a 90º? drop?
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The Taipan, Australia's most venomous snake - also the name of my model coaster in personal photo.
Just an opinion here, but I have to agree that with what Universal brings to the city of Orlando (an alternative to the Mouse), local ordinances would see an exception IF, and that's a big IF, a hyper was something that Universal wanted to do.
The red lights on Hulk's Cobra Roll are for theming. Don't ask me what they add to the theming, but back in December of 1998, I spoke with the Sr. Electrical Engineer of the park and that's what he told me. I personally don't see how it's theming, however, Hulk's Cobra Roll is 105ft...Nowhere near 200ft, obviously.
-Steve
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Track Record: 76 #1 Wood: The Legend #1 Steel: Fire Dragon
2001 Cheetah Rides: 108 and Counting
-Steve
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Track Record: 76 #1 Wood: The Legend #1 Steel: Fire Dragon
2001 Cheetah Rides: 108 and Counting
Wow. Now that's dedicating yourself to theme!
robvia said:
"The creative minds did not want the Doom towers to be a focal point of the park by getting your attention from those lights atop the towers."
And thank you for confirming what I've been saying about the zoning.
Why on earth would the city of Orlando want to limit their economic growth? Do you realize how illogical that is?
IOArules said:
"Yeah, like Orlando needs any more tourism."
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
Why on earth would the city of Orlando want to limit their economic growth? Do you realize how illogical that is?
Jeff said:
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com"
Well Jeff, I think it has to do with an obscure formula that states that the growth and size of a city has to be in direct co-relation to the ability of their professional sports teams (defunct XFL Orlando Rage team not included)
:oÞ
Funny you mention that. When the Orlando Magic was founded, I kept asking, "Um, OK, why?"
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
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Jeff
Webmaster/Admin - CoasterBuzz.com
The Rage are defunct now? I guess I need to keep up with my hometown team news a little more. :) Hopefully, with the loss of the Solar Bears, and now the Rage, that isn't a sign for the amusement industry in Orlando. :)
-Steve
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Track Record: 76 #1 Wood: The Legend #1 Steel: Fire Dragon
2001 Cheetah Rides: 108 and Counting
-Steve
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Track Record: 76 #1 Wood: The Legend #1 Steel: Fire Dragon
2001 Cheetah Rides: 108 and Counting
ioaddict33 said:
"The Rage are defunct now? I guess I need to keep up with my hometown team news a little more. :) Hopefully, with the loss of the Solar Bears, and now the Rage, that isn't a sign for the amusement industry in Orlando. :)
-Steve
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Track Record: 76 #1 Wood: The Legend #1 Steel: Fire Dragon
2001 Cheetah Rides: 108 and Counting"
Uh...The whole XFL is defunct now! LOL, it split after one season. Just wanted to say that.
Ok, I know one of the higher level managers at the park and I asked him what the deal was with the 200 ft limit in Orlando. He said there wasn't one, but didn't mention anything about the height of Dr. Doom.
I did ask about the chances of a larger coaster going in, and he made the point that it would simply look out of place... IOA has invested too much into themeing and look to change the entire landscape with a giga or woody for instance.
He was tight lipped about what they were going to do, but said they were looking at three seperate options right now, but didn't provide any more info than that... just my 2c.
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Mark Hansen
http://www.themeparkcritic.com
I did ask about the chances of a larger coaster going in, and he made the point that it would simply look out of place... IOA has invested too much into themeing and look to change the entire landscape with a giga or woody for instance.
He was tight lipped about what they were going to do, but said they were looking at three seperate options right now, but didn't provide any more info than that... just my 2c.
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Mark Hansen
http://www.themeparkcritic.com
I a DVD that I buy a IOA park worker said that, "he can't tell "you" (the viewer) of what they are getting next. I know that the next ride will be big!!
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Don't Fight It: Ride It! Raging Bull
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Don't Fight It: Ride It! Raging Bull
Stealth... I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't make any sense of what you just said, man.
Sorry, please try again.
Sorry, please try again.
I think what StealthmF5m3 was trying to say is that, if it was the same DVD I saw, the people at IOA hinted something big to come by saying something like this: "I could tell you what our next big project is, but if I did, I'd have to kill you."
Ah, thanks Scanz...
As far as IoA saying that a giga would disrupt the theming... gimme a break!
Trust me, the people could find a way to theme a dip spit stain on the concrete! And as much as I hate to admit it seeing as how I love the coaster, but the Hulk already stands out quite a bit, so what's the problem?
Coaster fans won't mind, and non-coaster fans will marvel. IoA has a feel of cutting edge to it already. Add to it! If height restrictions hamper heighth, then work around it. Most everyone who has ridden Hulk loves it. So have another launched coaster! If they can spend $200 million on Adventures of Spiderman (I say the designer still got ripped off), they can foot the bill for a couple of "well themed" killer coasters
*** This post was edited by Homey G. on 7/18/2001. *** *** This post was edited by Homey G. on 7/18/2001. ***
As far as IoA saying that a giga would disrupt the theming... gimme a break!
Trust me, the people could find a way to theme a dip spit stain on the concrete! And as much as I hate to admit it seeing as how I love the coaster, but the Hulk already stands out quite a bit, so what's the problem?
Coaster fans won't mind, and non-coaster fans will marvel. IoA has a feel of cutting edge to it already. Add to it! If height restrictions hamper heighth, then work around it. Most everyone who has ridden Hulk loves it. So have another launched coaster! If they can spend $200 million on Adventures of Spiderman (I say the designer still got ripped off), they can foot the bill for a couple of "well themed" killer coasters
*** This post was edited by Homey G. on 7/18/2001. *** *** This post was edited by Homey G. on 7/18/2001. ***
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