New idea for inverteds


Jim Fisher said:

An inverted hyper would also be very expensive to build because many of the inversions become enormous at the high speed of a hyper

Why does everyone keep assuming that the inversions have to be any larger than on current coasters? You just use the air time hills and turns of a classic hyper design to slow the coaster down to the point that you can throw in some inversions. Then you get some of the best qualities of both designs.

Alan T.

---There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."--Dave Barry



Alan T. said:

Jim Fisher said:

An inverted hyper would also be very expensive to build because many of the inversions become enormous at the high speed of a hyper

Why does everyone keep assuming that the inversions have to be any larger than on current coasters? You just use the air time hills and turns of a classic hyper design to slow the coaster down to the point that you can throw in some inversions. Then you get some of the best qualities of both designs.

Alan T.

---There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."--Dave Barry





yes do what arrow used to do, put loops on top of stilts. ave a 200+ drp then a 100 foot hill and put a loop on top of the hill then have it exit into another inversion on stilts, you dont need massive loops.


TrBiggar said:

The simplest way to figure out if a coaster is a hyper or not is to... Only categorize it as wood, steel non-looper, or steel looper! Another way that really works is look at what the manufacurer calls it. Intamin, therefore, doesn't make hypers. Don't the nameplates all say Megacoasters? Same with B&M, they don't make hypers, they make megas. I think that would mean Steel Eel is a hyper, because doesn't Morgan call thier coasters hypers? Get my picture?

If you're going by height, I go by if it's taller than 200 feet or has a 200+ foot drop, and is full circut.

laurence, why would the forces cause the wheels to shatter? I don't think inverted trains weigh that much more than a normal train. The forces are the same. If train A is inverted, B not, and both weigh 20 tons each, the forces are the same on the top, bottom, and side wheels to both coasters. Pulling forces, pushing, it doesn't matter. The wheel can't feel the difference.

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When did American Eagle get more airtime than Viper?



B&M make "speed coasters"!

el bolliger y el mabillard hacen coasters de la velocidad!

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laurence said:

a hyper coaster is a steel coaster based on a woodie design, so i dont really think a hyper coaster can have inversions in.

What about SOB, is it not a hyper-woodie with a loop?

2Hostyl said:
Lallen: You are absolutely right. Hypercoasters can have inversions. Hell, Millennium Force alone has three of them
lata,
jeremy
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MF is not a hyper, its a giga, so it has its own rules. And if WT at CP is a hyper twister then I guess STE at SFMM is the worlds first terra coaster (lets not start that thread again.)

Oh, and by the way, I'm just joking. Who cares what they classify the coaster as long as we keep getting more of them and they keep getting faster, higher, more inversions, etc. THE'RE ROLLERCOASTERS. PERIOD! Why can't we all just get along?

Rob



laurence said:

anyone want to make a no limits inverted hyper coaster...



Sure!!! I'll do it! Wait, I already did ;) . The picture of the lift can be found here. It really shouldn't look as strange in real life as the one I made since I had the track go underneath, but you get the idea. The ride is 218 feet tall, so it's barely a hyper-inverted.

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Jeff makes an excellent point. At higher speeds, each element takes longer and this screws up the pace of a coaster with inversions.

Roomraider,

I think that using feet and inches is a lot easier than using meters. (Just my opinion, and that of many other Americans).

:)

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Ok, for inversions, take Alpengeist and add 3 feet to its height, now are the inversions on Alpengeist to big because it would be a hyper? Besides, you've seen how big Speed:The Ride's loop is(yeah real enormous like 700 feet tall LOL) and how tall is Speed? Taking inversions at extreme speed can actually make a dramatic difference in their thrill factor, for instance, many think that Alpengiest has the best Immeliman BLAH because it is taking at such with such amazing speed. What do you guys think of Mr.Freeze and The Chillers' inversions? Are they made to big because of their ride's height? The first coaster coaster over 200 feet(Moonsault Scrambler, first hyper in my book) had one of the tightest and smallest inversions ever created.

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Hey MR. Papercut, nice spanish translation and I'll give you the palabra for "coasters"=Montanas rusas. Get it "Russian Mountains" since the Russians invented the first coasters out of snow. The spanish language is quite clever isn't it?

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coasteraddict said:

Roomraider,

I think that using feet and inches is a lot easier than using meters. (Just my opinion, and that of many other Americans).

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The point is that the rest of the world uses meters instead of feets, and they are often reported in meters and feets... and nice numbers of hyper's 60, giga's 90 and tera's 120 are all a few feets short of the american's 200, 300, and 400.

We understand that many people on the boards are American, but please allow 196' coasters to qualify as hypers, 295' as gigas and 394' as teras. (60 m, 90 m and 120 m respectively)

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