New idea for inverteds
It just came to my mind that a cool idea for a new coaster would be to have an inverted gigacoaster. I can just picture the long, long, angled descent from 300 ft up. Then we could have it built in a park that would really benefit from having such a coaster. Maybe somewhere like KBF or IB?
And while I'm on this subject.......excuse my apparent ignorance....but are there any inverted hypercoasters?
Lallen said:
And while I'm on this subject.......excuse my apparent ignorance....but are there any inverted hypercoasters?
One could make the argument that Wicked Twister is an inverted hyper. Its a stretch, but technically true.
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i believe that an inverted hyper coaster would be very hard to achieve as all the force put on the wheels at the bottom of hills could make them shatter, so new wheels would have to be developed to stand strong against the forces.
also, hyper coasters are all about air time, and you dont really get that much air time in an inverted car due to the OTS restraint (unless it is on a bunny hop like dueling dragons!)
Alpie is the tallest full circuit at 190'.
Jubilee Odysey (sp?) is coming in at 265' this summer.
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ok, while alpengeist is not a hyper-coaster, i dont think 3-5 ft will put that much more strain on the train and the structure itself.
hyper-inverts are probably very possible, but the main idea behind a hyper is not to have alot of inversions, but instead airtime and speed.
Laurence: Supposedly Deja Vu pulls 4.5 G. I don't think MF pulls much more than that, if at all. In other words, the wheels on Deja Vu would be fine for a giga.
Hyper coasters are all about air time, because they use bunny hops (some very large). What's wrong with taking the DD hill and repeating it just like a hyper? It'll give you just as much air as DD did over and over and over, and you can mix in some inversions too.
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by the way, the height of odyssey (as the ride is now called) at fantasy island is only 185ft and the only record it holds is longest inverted in the world.
seems like vekoma were lying with the statistics!
also, inverted coasters are all about inversions as i feel they would be a little boring without them. and hypers are not supposed to contain any inversions at all, so one of the best aspects of inverted coasters would be lost!
*** This post was edited by laurence on 5/16/2002. ***
anyone want to make a no limits inverted hyper coaster (maybe just change magnum or something into an inverted) just so we can all see what it would be like??
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laurence said:
by the way, the height of odyssey (as the ride is now called) at fantasy island is only 185ft and the only record it holds is longest inverted in the world.
seems like vekoma were lying with the statistics!
also, inverted coasters are all about inversions as i feel they would be a little boring without them. and hypers are not supposed to contain any inversions at all, so one of the best aspects of inverted coasters would be lost!
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It was actually the park that fabricated the height. They have a tendency to stretch the truth from time to time....IE Millenium coaster
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laurence said:
by the way, the height of odyssey (as the ride is now called) at fantasy island is only 185ft and the only record it holds is longest inverted in the world.
seems like vekoma were lying with the statistics!
also, inverted coasters are all about inversions as i feel they would be a little boring without them. and hypers are not supposed to contain any inversions at all, so one of the best aspects of inverted coasters would be lost!
*** This post was edited by laurence on 5/16/2002. ***
Hmmm the name is still Jubilee Odyssey as i can see... http://www.fantasyisland.co.uk/newseasfr.htm
And sponsored by KitKat... http://www.geocities.com/odysseycoaster/news.html scroll down abit.
Back to the topic, I shouldn't say that there wont be any Hyper Inverted O&B layout but to me it would look pretty odd, i see Inverteds as an intense inversion ride sometimes with one or two airtime hills alá Pyrenees :).
a hyper coaster is a steel coaster based on a woodie design, so i dont really think a hyper coaster can have inversions in.
and it is only called odyssey as the ride wasnt granted something to make it related to the jubilee or something like that
Yeah, I'm sure the price tag would be astronomical.........but why would it be rough? I'm picturing a 300 ft drop going into a 200 ft cobra roll.........mmmm........;)
well....if a 200' tall lift is "the criteria", the the old SP wouldn't count....if a 200' drop is used, it would....
but back to topic, how many inverteds are there that drop straight off the lift....none that I know of....the designof the trains makes it very hard to have classic bunny-hops because you don't want riders with legs extended getting hurt by the car in front of them tilting back.....Fire Dragon has the best airtime of any inverted I've been on, and I absolutely love the sensation, but an O-n-B invert, I don't think we'll see it antyime soon (unless there's a major innovation in train design)....
lata,
jeremy
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