more 4D's are coming including launched!

There is no connection because Dragster was already in development long before Xcelerator launched its first train. The other two rides have been around longer (years, in the case of Hypersonic) and still don't have the track record to prove they're a consistant ride system.

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Its seems that people are jealous just because "X" isn't at their home park.

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That doesn't make any sense. How many enthusiasts have traveled to SFMM just to ride X? Hundreds? Thousands? Jealousy isn't the issue, but people like myself have some real issues with how well it's performed. Based on that, I tend to form realistic expectations about what will or will not be built. Before X even broke ground, everybody on the planet and every senseless rumor site put a similar ride at [your park here]. You can see how that obviously didn't happen.

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"The world rotates to The Ultra-Heavy Beat!" - KMFDM

No where in the interview does Alan claim parks are falling over themselves to add one of his rides, on the contrary, I get the sense that he knows it's going to be an uphill battle and he's not trying to fool anyone. So to rehash the same old "X isn't reliable" staple seems out of place to me.

This isn't anything new, it's been an uphill battle to his idea into a park from the beginning, and he's managed unbelievably to do so. I'm glad he hasn't caved in and givin up on the 4D, it's a great story that sounds like it's headed for a happy ending.

I'm also glad he has set the record straight about SF being the ones wanting to go big with this protoype, something I have said all along. Built at "normal" size, and developed properly, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. And if I realize this, certainly potential buyer are smart enough to realize it as well.

*** This post was edited by DWeaver 2/17/2003 3:25:48 PM ***

Sure, but it's not like Arrow was *forced* to build X. Six Flags might have pushed the issue, but Arrow was unbelievably *stupid* to build such a huge prototype. The failure of that ride in the beginning was hardly something unforseeable. On the contrary, Arrow got what they deserved. When you make dumb decisions, you deal with the consequences. SFMM may very well deserve what they got, but Arrow also deserved the nail in the coffin for agreeing to do it.

Remember when Chris Godsey claimed S:UF (SFoG) was going to be the first hyper flyer?

-Nate

No one said Arrow was forced to build anything. And for that matter, Arrow was on the way out *long* before X. So in fact, I think X helped to *save* them. They wouldn't have looked nearly as appealing to S&S without that ride.

considering that a friend of mine just called me from SFMM to tell me he was standing on X's platform at that very moment and IT JUST WENT DOWN (i could hear the announcement in the background) i have my doubts about X's reliability. Arrow just didnt do a good enough job in designing it, IMO.

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formerly known as servo3000...mela en coiamin Legolas

Oh great, now rides can't go down? you guys are getting really nutty. Try waiting in line for Xcelerator, then get back to me.

I highly doubt that a friend would call you just to tell you that a ride broke down.......

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1)Raptor's
2)Deja Vu's (times 3)
3)Batman Knight Flight's

If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

he did...its ok if you dont beleive me, but he did. he knows i want to ride X and he called to make me jealous that he was in line for it...then it want down.

besides, thats just how my friends and i operate...i call him from CP to tell him MF is up and running and i got 15 laps onit...

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formerly known as servo3000...mela en coiamin Legolas

Send one to Carowinds!

I personally think that they are a bad investment.... but try telling that to any Xaholic!

The Problem here is no one on this board knows if Arrow as already fixed the downtime issues with the 4D. Just because it has not been implemented on X, does not mean they do not have a solution. It could be that in order for Arrow to fix the issues they would have to take to whole coaster down and rebuild it from scratch. But do you think Arrow would do that? And if they did, do you think Six Flags would let them close the ride for a year so they and rebuild the ride? I do not think so. So the fact is X may never be perfect, but the Next 4D will have most of the bugs worked out before they start building it.
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So Jeff....why would the head designer of S&S/Arrow say such things? Are you calling him a liar?

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"...they came like a winged curse. A twin plague of demonic dragons!" - Dueling Dragons

You can thank Chris Godsey (among others, I'm sure) for bringing Thrillride back. And to say that he knows nothing is a pretty ignorant statement...

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It's still me, here from the beginning back in 1999. Add 1500+ posts to the number I have in the info section if you care about such things.

The whole reason Thrill Ride is back is to sell the SECOND BOOK.

Chuck, who is in the SOB first drop pic in the first book :)

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Confirmed, Lesourdsville Lake opening for 2003 details soon at Lesourdsville.com

Exactly. What does this "new Thrillride" have to offer? The best part of the old site, IMO, was reading through the hilarious rumors. Now those are no more. I never used the forums (and don't plan on it now). The "hot news" is okay, but nothing I can't find elsewhere. And I have access to hundreds of trip reports/reviews online. There's nothing I can find on the "new Thrillride" that I can't find a better example of somewhere else. Bob's reviews are entertaining, but not enough so that I care whether the site is back or not. Thrillride was great in its day, but that's past now.

-Nate

Back to the launched "X" I think the next one may go to Blackpoole Pleasure Beach. Hint "Thrust X" and than Alan Shilke hinted at a launched version so I wouldn't be too surprised now!

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So Jeff....why would the head designer of S&S/Arrow say such things? Are you calling him a liar?

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What the hell are you talking about? I never said anything in response to what he said.

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"The world rotates to The Ultra-Heavy Beat!" - KMFDM

That would be a great ride... the train launches and the seats stay put because all the welds broke.. hehehehe

As much as I love S&S rides.. I like the thrill ones.. I'm not too hot on thier atempts at roller coasters so far. I'm actually looking forward to riding one of the newer "re-designed" slingshots. Although with the way the harness's look. I don't think it'll be the same. Half the fun was the little cloth harness holding you in.

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VertiGo Rides - 82
Technical Services - 2002
Frightzone Screamster - 2002

Allright guys, just to let you know, Wild Rumors will be back on the rideworld section of the site. The reason why they are there is because concern from some parks. And I'm not shure over this but Chris and Bob started work again on the site about 13 months ago. That was before Bob decided to have a second printing of his book. Also Rideworld is going to have lots of great one of a kind content, with Thrillride being how it was a few years ago, just without Wild Rumors.

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But that's the point with out the Wild Rumors the site pretty much sucks, Rob should of brought the site back in it's orginal form or left it dead imo. The wild rumors was what made the site imo,without it, it's just another amusement park covering web site........There are plenty of those around the net already.

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LadyLegolasGreenleaf said:
considering that a friend of mine just called me from SFMM to tell me he was standing on X's platform at that very moment and IT JUST WENT DOWN (i could hear the announcement in the background) i have my doubts about X's reliability. Arrow just didnt do a good enough job in designing it, IMO.

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I've been in line for X probably 4 or 5 times when it has broken down. However, almost every time it's broken down, it's been back up within 30 minutes. It almost *always* seems to be a problem with the pneumatics in the station preventing it from rotating the seats, not something with the train. Only once have I seen it have problems and the engineers actually checking the trains. Even then, it was back up and running within 30 minutes.

I was there yesterday, and X ran pretty flawlessly all day long, I think I saw about a 10 minute period with no dispatches. On the other hand, Goliath was experiencing problems all day. Right when I got to the park it had managed to get stuck at the bottom of the lift hill. Looked like the chain never engaged or something, and the train was just sitting there, barely at all up the first hill. Was funny though, they unloaded the train, then, about 10 minutes later, fired up the chain lift and about 6 or 7 people pushed the train onto the chain. Good stuff!

Suffice to say, it broke down again about 30 minutes later, this time with a train sitting about 3/4 of the way up the lift hill. I never saw it run again after about 1 or 2 o'clock.

This entire time, X was running nicely. They are doing a good job of working out the kinks, and I've ridden the ride *many* times without any major issues.