there is an interview Alan Shilke with on thrillride, hes the main guy behind X and he has confirmed that S&S Arrow are in talks with a customer about installing a new 4D coaster. he also talks about launched versions of the 4D and a new 8 seat train design. should be very interesting to see these new rides!
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That's all find and dandy, and great that they can imagine such things, but it sure seems like an up-hill battle to try and sell a combination of two products that, to this point, have proved unreliable.
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BRENT! You're not allowed to say that, LOL. I was thinking basically the same thing....after Xcel, I certainly wouldn't consider the Intamin hydraulic launch to be a *proven system*. But, you've got the word's tallest coaster, and even if it is a bit *buggy*, that won't make it any slower or shorter...;).
Instead of trying to launch a 4-d, perhaps time would be better spent working out the kinks so we could build a few "working models"...
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But what I don't understand is if SFMM has a say so over corporate and they did indeed tell Arrow to go big on X, b/c they only add big rides.........Why in the hell are they adding a 150 foot mirror clone for 2003 if the only go big lol.
Also how is X a short twister, at what point onX does it twist over itself to be considered a twister,or am I missing something? To my knownledge isn't X a double out n back ? Lift, drop, takes you out, then the first Raven turn brings you back in, Then the turnaround takes you back out, then the second Raven turn bring you back in. That's a double out n back right.
Anyways I hope the park Alan is talking about is CP and they get the huge one he's talking about with the full/full and the one and a half/half flips. Imo they're the only park (other then the park that already has one) that spend big big money on extreme rides like 4ds. I can see other more normal lol parks getting the tamer versions Alan speak of .
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From what I understand, Dondonpa has proven to be fairly reliable. They probably learned things from Hypersonic and incorporated it into the Dondonpa. I expect Top Thrill Dragster to be reliable for the same reasons. Things were learned from Xcelerator, which I'm sure will be incorporated into TTD.
But Pete, from what I understand, Hypersonic IS running reliably right now, while the Intamin product that is *operating* is still experiencing significant downtime...if they've learned so much from Xcel, why not use that knowledge to get Xcel all the way to *reasonable reliability*....
That was a really good interview. I didn't even know Thrillride was back up with content. That is great to see. I have always really enjoyed that site.
Good news about the 4th Dimension too. I don't understand how enthusiests can be so negative about such a revolutionary ride system. Its seems that people are jealous just because "X" isn't at their home park. Its really a shame. With the combination of S&S and Arrow the possbilities are endless. I think that match is going to be a really good thing as far all products from both companies. A launched 4D would be incredible.
I haven't ridden X, but of all the coasters I have yet to ride that is on the top of my list. I live in PA, and making it out to CA isn't exactly a priority. I will make it there sometime. I am hoping a 4D is installed a park close by. I am sure even if one is intalled in my region it won't be as big and thrilling as X.